Barbossa Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Anyone else notice this around them? I've seen it on the web, i've seen it IRL. Reason number one being that HBO don't show any battle scenes and only the aftermath of them. Reason number two being that the foreshadowing in the show are poorly done. Take for example the last episode, while the revelation of the others gave me a boner, most unsullied only got from that scene that " so they are turning babies now?" Probably less then 10% made the connection that set WW is most likely the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Newcastle Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I didn't notice this at all. In fact, the show is at it's most popular ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal-a-bunga Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The idea posed in the topic title (lose*, by the way) is empirically false. Anyone else notice this around them? I've seen it on the web, i've seen it IRL. Reason number one being that HBO don't show any battle scenes and only the aftermath of them. Reason number two being that the foreshadowing in the show are poorly done. Take for example the last episode, while the revelation of the others gave me a boner, most unsullied only got from that scene that " so they are turning babies now?" Probably less then 10% made the connection that set WW is most likely the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch. The bold part of your quote makes absolutely no sense. Why would non-readers know anything about the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch? /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Road Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Anyone else notice this around them? I've seen it on the web, i've seen it IRL. Reason number one being that HBO don't show any battle scenes and only the aftermath of them. Reason number two being that the foreshadowing in the show are poorly done. Take for example the last episode, while the revelation of the others gave me a boner, most unsullied only got from that scene that " so they are turning babies now?" Probably less then 10% made the connection that set WW is most likely the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch. Blackwater? A newly created attack on Craster's Keep coming up next episode? The battle against the Vale tribesmen? The endless series of duels and brawls? Anyway, give people some credit, just because they're show-only watchers it doesn't mean that they're drooling idiots who need blood-letting every episode to stay interested. It's the characters that keep people interested, not merely the special effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieAntoinette Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Quite the opposite. I'm under the impression that show is incredibly popular at the moment. As far as I'm informed the ratings are great and it is one of the most-pirated shows ever. GOT-related stuff is all over internet, the hype is almost overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaquentis Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 If they're losing their interest (which I doubt it), it's also partly because certain book readers spoil every single detail and keep nagging in their ears about every little change from the books :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pies Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Wow, that is not true. This season has been better than ever before, and people are really hyped for it. What other show generates this amount of discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellus Explorer Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Lmao, I haven't met one non book viewer who has lost interest, especially after Oathkeeper, if anything I've met more book viewers left in awe at the fact that they don't know everything that HBO is throwing at us..... And are getting the rug pulled from under them..... Including myself :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanx5 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I dont know where you are getting your info from but numbers and ratings prove otherwise, this season has regularly been close to 6 1/2 million each episode, while last season not 1 episode reached 6 million not even the RW or s3 finale, so s4 is as popular as ever, and Oathkeeper was the most popular episode of the season thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillian Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 To be honest, the only negative comments I heard are all from book readers, certainly not from Unsullied. And none of them complained by the lack of battles, actually they are hooked but much different things like Daenerys' journey, Tyrion's character, the conspiracies at court, Arya and the Hound, Jamie's redemption and his friendship with Brienne, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widows_Blood Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Literally I have never heard a negative thing from an unsullied about this show irl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherCrannogman Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I think it is becoming less popular among book readers like me as the show lacks nuance and is completely ham hamded. From Reek to Brienne the whole show is a simplistic comic compared to the books. I am becoming convinced D&D are not real fans and do not understand the books.I dare them to let us know their usernames on this board so we can laugh at their simplistic lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fixit Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The bold part of your quote makes absolutely no sense. Why would non-readers know anything about the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch? /thread Not only that, but I think that something like 95% of *book readers* also don't have a clue about the Night's King or him being the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch. They forgot about him a long time ago if they ever noticed him at all. I am becoming convinced D&D are not real fans and do not understand the books. Ah yes, the True Fan argument. Is there a certificate somewhere I can obtain? :read: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Onion Sleight Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Anyone else notice this around them? I've seen it on the web, i've seen it IRL. Reason number one being that HBO don't show any battle scenes and only the aftermath of them. Reason number two being that the foreshadowing in the show are poorly done. Take for example the last episode, while the revelation of the others gave me a boner, most unsullied only got from that scene that " so they are turning babies now?" Probably less then 10% made the connection that set WW is most likely the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch. Oh, they should wait for Ep. 9 :drool: Nearly an hour full of Battle of Castle Battle (or actually 3 battle at the same time as Marshall said), NW members, wildlings, Stannis and his host, Neil Marshall as director (did they forget "Blackwater"?!) - Which would-love-to-see-more-battles-loving person won't love this? But seriously, I understand some points of you. Yeah, the show is at its peak, and it gets higher and higher, the hype and love won’t stop, the ratings speak for themself (and I think this all will increase even more with every new season). But I know what you mean with the example of the Others’ reveal (Btw: The bold part of your quote makes absolutely no sense. Why would non-readers know anything about the 13th Lord Commander of the Watch? /thread -> This "Histories & Lore of Westeros" video about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KHzcsLjgog ;-) But I agree with you! I think, we have to seperate the general interest and the personal interest of a few individuals: Some only show watchers really dislike the whole magic stuff, some of them still seem to see GoT more as a historical than a fantasy series.These will maybe lose interest with time.Only show watchers who would love to see an "only Khaleesi / Tyrion" show and don't really care about many other storylines, will become disappointed in the future.There will always be only show wachters who are more and more confused and unhappy with the increasing of more and more characters and storylines (or don't like the development of their favourite persons).When these watchers will stop to watch, then it's actually a very GOOD thing (imo!), because these shouldn't watch it. The wrong understanding of the show and wrong expectations will make them miserable (Don't get me wrong: Nothing against expecting events which don't happen -the surprises and unexpecting things are the greatness of ASOIAF / GoT!- but you have to accept some things and... I hope you know what I mean). The general love and interest of the watchers / web / media will never stop, I guess, but few watchers could lose it, when on the show the things they don't like become more important, have more screentime, make the story more complex and some characters change in their development. (<- That's what should happen!)That are all the things I LOVE the most and I found the most interesting and I'm looking forward to season 5, when the storylines of The Wall, Beyond the Wall, Team Dragonstone, Team Dreadfort and the Greyjoys get linked and we'll see/hear more about the WW, the power of the Red God & Old Gods, the exciting situation in the North with the different parties and alliances, aso... But the watchers who (only) love to see King's Landing, Essos and Arya and Sandor and except the future's focus on them, and don't care very much about other stuff (e.g. the North), will be surprised and I really hope these people will at some point understand the importance and significance of all storylines and story elements. If they show handles the next seasons well, this should happen and the loss of these few individuals wouldn't mind neither the show nor the most people's interest (y'know: Seperating the wheat from the chaff!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I don't know a single non book reader (and a lot of my friends watch GoT) who is giving up. The OP states an untrue fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovis alba Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Literally I have never heard a negative thing from an unsullied about this show irl. I have a similar feeling. Most people that I hear complaining are book readers that don't like the way something is "translated" to the screen. The only thing only show watchers sometimes "complain" about in my surroundings is that especially after a season break it is hard for them to remember all the persons and their connections (we also often don't really have the "previously on" part when it airs here) and that they "have to" really watch the old seasons again before the new starts (although "have to" is really nothing they are too sad about :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Also how would foreshadowing being poorly done affect 99% of show watchers? How would they know? How do you know what's foreshadowing? The example you gave wasn't foreshadowing btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovis alba Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I also thing that due to the different knowledge of the viewer/readers (because overall readers are still one book ahead) the viewers just do have a different focus.I have the feeling if you want to compare readers and watchers to groups in the book: Many readers are Nightswatch people now because they know that there is some serious stuff going on there by the end of ADWD, while viewers are more King's Landing people that asume it's not all that bad, it's a problem for the NW and still are more about the IT. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Newcastle Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I think it is becoming less popular among book readers like me as the show lacks nuance and is completely ham hamded. From Reek to Brienne the whole show is a simplistic comic compared to the books. I am becoming convinced D&D are not real fans and do not understand the books.I dare them to let us know their usernames on this board so we can laugh at their simplistic lack of knowledge.Have you ever adapted a 5000 page novel to TV? No? And you don't have any clue about the various issues that they have to contend with beyond how much they "ruin Stannis" and show their lack of knowledge of the source material?GRRM thought them worthy of doing this adaptation. You should stop watching the show inmediatly and either sit and cry every time it's on or just read the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherCrannogman Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I am not a producer and do not claim to be. I am a fan and think I should be who these guy are aiming at. I think they are trying to do way too much episode and where they deviate they show they are not the writers George is. Have you ever adapted a 5000 page novel? Of course you have not so your opinion is no more valid than mine. And your tone is pretty awful and condescending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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