Victor227 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's an odd question, I know, but the thought just sort of struck me out of the blue tonight. Is there any mention as to the source of their names? There's been a number of Lannister kings by the name of Tommen (two at least), but the only other Joffrey I could think of was a Targaryen... Basically! Is there anywhere where it's pointed out in the text or SSMs as to the sources of the children's names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Well Robert didn't seem to invested in his kids to begin with, and for another thing Cersei wouldn't like the idea of Robert naming kids that weren't even his. I'm willing to bet that Cersei suggested names and Robert shrugged and said "Very well" before chasing the next servant girl he liked the look of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think it's pretty clear that Cersei named Myrcella (since "Myr" appears in more than one Lannister name), as well as Tommen. With Joffrey, I'm not sure. Even though he wasn't very present in their lives, I wouldn't doubt Robert would want to name his firstborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Tommen was definitely named by Cersei, and I think probably all of them were. Robert didn't seem to care about them much, but it's odd he didn't just overrule her for no real reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joffrey fan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Robert didn't care. He probably allowed Cersei to name all their children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Tommen is a Lannister name, and so Myrcella is similar to many others.Joffrey was likely a shout out to Jaime, but is a common name, especially in the Stormlands, so she loses nothing.Cersei named them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Wasn't there another historical "Joffrey" mentioned in the world book or the Dance of the Dragons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Wasn't there another historical "Joffrey" mentioned in the world book or the Dance of the Dragons? A few. A Joffrey Dayne, a Joffrey Dogget and a Joffrey Lonmouth. Dorne, Westerlands and Stormlands respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 There was also a Joffrey Velaryon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydra Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 They're bad names so it was most likely Cersei since the Lannisters have little talent in these things: "hear me roar", "lion tooth", "birghtroar" ...seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 ^Tommen is not a bad name. Neither Myrcella. Joffrey, otoh, is a bad name for a future King. Considering this was a new line on the throne, they needed a stronger name, very related to the Baratheons. Also, Joffrey was a kid who people believed to be a bastard. Cersei has quite a twisted sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Girl Lacks Honor Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I always thought Cersei named them, because all three have "twin-lettters" in their names (ff, ll, mm) indicating their true parentage.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I always thought Cersei named them, because all three have "twin-lettters" in their names (ff, ll, mm) indicating their true parentage. Good catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingoftheSevenKingdoms Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm assuming that since Joffrey is a name associated more often with the Stormlands, Robert named his "heir". After that, I don't think he really cared what Tommen and Myrcella were called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmnomnomPomelo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think Joffrey is a valyrian name, coz there was a Joffrey Velaryon back then and Orys Baratheon was a valyrian himself (or half), also Robert claimed the throne for himself through his grandmother who was Targaryen, so he gave a valyrian name to his heir.Tommen seems to be a western name coz there were Tommen Lannister(s), and then Myrcella probably a name used in the Stormlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think Joffrey is a valyrian name, coz there was a Joffrey Velaryon back then and Orys Baratheon was a valyrian himself (or half), also Robert claimed the throne for himself through his grandmother who was Targaryen, so he gave a valyrian name to his heir. Tommen seems to be a western name coz there were Tommen Lannister(s), and then Myrcella probably a name used in the Stormlands. It isn't. No Dornish man would call themselves a Valyrian name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaraeyne Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 As several people mentioned before, Robert did not care for his children. As Stannis once put it, ''Robert only enjoyed the making of children.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think Joffrey is a valyrian name, coz there was a Joffrey Velaryon back then and Orys Baratheon was a valyrian himself (or half), also Robert claimed the throne for himself through his grandmother who was Targaryen, so he gave a valyrian name to his heir.Tommen seems to be a western name coz there were Tommen Lannister(s), and then Myrcella probably a name used in the Stormlands.Wrong. Joffrey Velaryon was named after Joffrey Lonmouth from Stormlands. Joffrey is a common Westerosi name found all across Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Baela Targaryen Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No Dornish man would call themselves a Valyrian name. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daeron_Vaith http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_Sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It isn't. No Dornish man would call themselves a Valyrian name. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daeron_Vaith http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_Sand Well to be fair, people rarely name themselves :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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