GilletteMace Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 i am always pleased to see the stupid dogs die. so to me you cant get rid of them fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinka10 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 hours ago, romantic said: I wonder if Bran could warg zombie-Summer. Budget blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faolchú Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 5 hours ago, romantic said: I wonder if Bran could warg zombie-Summer. Mind....blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imp-ty Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Bran woke up from his coma and initial meeting with the 3ER and knew to name his wolf Summer. Winter is coming are the Stark words. Summer is not what defeats Winter. Spring is what melts away the snows. Summer is when you prepare for winter (grow your crops, hone your skills, ect). Summer was Bran's version of training wheels for developing his gifts. He can now ride faster without them (so to speak). I was devastated to see the doggie go, but in terms of moving the plot forward, he has had by far the most meaningful death. He, Leaf, and Hodor provided time for Brandon and Meera to escape and now Bran will have to learn how to function without the safety net of having a direwolf and a giant to protect him and the option to just "hop" into one of their bodies when he needs legs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedShadow Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The direwolves do/did have meaning int he show. Summer died so Winter can begin. GreyWind blew south with Robb and died with him Jon died and came back a Ghost Lady died, as did Sansa's innocence and naivety(thinking she was destined to marry a prince and be a queen and proper lady) Shaggydog was literally just a shaggydog story(a story that is entirely inconsequential/pointless in the end) Nymeria became independent and went on her own, just like Arya I wish people would stop saying "oh hurr durr hurr le budget) because it's not that at all. This season had $10million budget per episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of man and wolf Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 When winter comes...only the Wolves will howl. Winter is a time for Wolves. The direwolves shouldnt be dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirwood woman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 7 hours ago, PigJouster said: At this point, I expect the next episode to have some random, nameless character say "I killed a direwolf in the Riverlands the other day!" and for that to be the end of Nymeria. Oh no... Sansa is sending Brienne to the Riverlands... your expectations might be fulfilled if this keeps up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Well, who is left to kill to give the audience the shock. Can't kill Sansa yet, can't kill Arya yet, can't kill Jon again, yet, can't kill Bran yet, can't kill Rickon yet, gotta kill their wolves. Man that really hurt. I like the wolves more than the humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless Man Friday Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lady dies. Bran wakes from his coma. Grey Wind dies. LS awakes from dead. (Book only) but in show both Arya and Sansa grow stronger, Bran's abilities grow, so maybe there is something there. Shaggydog dies. Jon awakes from the dead. Summer dies. ? Only death can pay for life. So there seem to be some tie between the death of the direwolves and the evolution of the Stark children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourneblade Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 9 hours ago, PigJouster said: I do hope that's the case, for the books' sake. Shaggy Dog and especially Summer both died for no real reason. Hell, even Grey Wind, back in Season 3, died wrong. I was so hoping to see a Stark supporter set him loose to tear apart a few Freys like in the books, and instead he was shot down in a cage. At this point, I expect the next episode to have some random, nameless character say "I killed a direwolf in the Riverlands the other day!" and for that to be the end of Nymeria. In the Books Grey Wind did have that symbolic death. Not only that is was Rob's squire and brother in law who set him loose, took a bolt and ended up in the Trident. At this point, in the books, we still do not know the fate of that Squire. Basically in the books those 2 wolves deaths had meaning and purpose. In the Show, unless Shaggy is really not dead, then both of those deaths have had no purpose or meaning. If they are destined to die in the Books, I imagine it will much more symbolic and play a much greater role in the overall story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maicao Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Who confirmed Shaggydog is dead??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fexyr Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Since EP1/ Book 1 I believed the direwolfs meant something more than pets/protectors. There's theories about their names and etc etc. So yes, I'm pissed that their life/death meant nothing at all. They didn't add nothing, they're just pets. I'm waiting to see what they'll do to Ghost and Nymeria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Even if the wolves die in the books, I refuse to believe it will be in such a retarded manner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messem Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Lord Parker said: So, we're only halfway through this season and we've already seen Summer killed and Shaggydog confirmed killed offscreen. A lot of people are pissed about this, and I don't blame them. Summer's death was meaningless, glazed over, and to be honest: stupid. Isn't that the case with 90% of the deaths in general? Only a few get a glorious death. Of the pack Summer has even the most glorious death (Although I have to admit that he went down too easy too fast) Lady: Killed by Ned Stark Greywolf: Killed while caged Shaggydog: Most likely killed off screen. Summer: Killed by a lot of wights while protecting Bran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinsarellaSand Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 33 minutes ago, maicao said: Who confirmed Shaggydog is dead??? In an interview, Art Parkinson (the actor who plays Rickon), said that he's dead. Of course this could be just something that he's saying, but it seems unlikely. But yeah. It's not that I can't get over Summer dying, it could have been fine. I mean, sad of course, but things like this happen. But it was the way that it happened... it was just a meaningless moment overrun by an over-the-top zombie scene. Ugh. Praying to both the old gods and the new that Brienne's trip to the Riverlands doesn't somehow treat us to the information that Nymeria died off-screen. There has to be something more for her than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohlin_the_Wretched Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 No one knows what is in the Winds of Winter, so Summer may go out that way in the books. It is obvious Rickon was a substitute for Jeyne Poole and it would make no sense to have Rickon captured and Shaggydog survive. Or here is another thought ... D&D has become so obsessively tired of hearing six season of "not enough direwolves" they took a page out of another famous duos handbook (Parker and Stone) and decided if you are going to bitch about not enough direwolves, we are going to kill them all off so you have one less thing to bitch about! Personally, I find all the judgment regarding the show just a symptom of this country as a whole. Can't be happy with what you are given, you have to piss and moan about getting more! HBO could allocate 20 episodes a season and still leave out stuff from the books and you people would still act like spoiled children. Please continue to bitch and whine and Ghost will be dead before you know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Storm Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 11 hours ago, GeorgeIAF said: I believe it's all about the budget, in their opinion the direwolves are delivering too little when compared to the cost of making them. I agree, they didn't even bother showing Ghost leaving Winterfell with Jon, Sansa and their band of misfits. I assume Ghost will just be there on Bear Island or wherever when it is necessary for the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maicao Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 53 minutes ago, LinsarellaSand said: In an interview, Art Parkinson (the actor who plays Rickon), said that he's dead. Of course this could be just something that he's saying, but it seems unlikely. A few days ago, Daniel Sackham, director of episode 3 and 4, was asked on reddit: Quote Are you positive that is Shaggydog's head? Kinda small for a direwolf, if you ask me... His response was Quote Your right it does seem small. I had the same question, but I was assured by the creature maker that was responsible for crafting the head that it was the correct size. Good question. He didn't confirm or deny it was Shaggydog's head, he just said "it was the correct size"... so one can only hope he's not dead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masha Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 On theory side, If R+L=J, I can totally see that Jon will lose Ghost right before he meets his new dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonisHenryTudor Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 To be honest, and I hate saying this but: I think the direwolves only had/have one purpose, which was to protect the children. I think Nymeria is still alive for one purpose. Arya's wolf dreams make it impossible for her to forget about her family (book), and I think Arya will fail to fully immerse herself with the FM (hopefully-I hate this arc) due to persistent dreams. In the show, they seem to be using the play to remind her. Once Arya returns....then it may be Nymeria's turn to go (in the book). I don't think the DW were ever intended to accompany the Stark children into adulthood. If this is true...Ghost may be on borrowed time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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