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  1. I agree that it is hard to be a Jon or Dany fan. I turn the question around about Jon seeing his family, and wonder if they will visit him. I for one do not think Sansa or Bran will ever visit Jon. Bran and Sansa end up quite a bit alike in that they both will allow a situation to unfold if they are going to 'get something' from it. Jon may see Arya again, maybe. Dany fans have it much harder than Jon fans, however I do think that they were fodder for an ending. Not because it made sense, but because some folks had to die and it wasn't going to be the Stark kids.
  2. Every time I think I am done ranting, I have to come back. As I think about various parts of the finale, I realize that it makes no sense and I return here to post my problem. I do not believe Bran should be King, and if I have to, then I conceive of Bran as an evil King. Bran tells Tyrion that he wants nothing, he says "I don't want". Yet, later at the 3 Stooges Council, after nominated as King, Bran says 'why do you think I came all this way?" So Bran must want. He wants so much that he organized things to happen in a particular way, watched friends die, and showed up for his coronation. That is the only way to make sense. If we argue that Bran wants nothing and simply watched events unfold, then why does he say -- why do you think I came all this way? The sentence connotes expectation, an expectation to be met. Why does Bran have an expectation, if he wants nothing. Now I know why Bran told Sam he had to tell Jon about his claim to the throne. Bran needed Jon to tell Dany, cause Dany to worry about her claim, put distance in their relationship, stop intimacy as we saw, and tip Dany off the edge - all because Bran wanted to be King. Or nothing at the 3 Stooges Council made sense and this is just one rant among many. If you go character by character, that council made little to no sense at all. And D&D are passing off that crap as a finale. We did we ever do to them?
  3. Tyrion (I think it was Tyrion) while sentencing Jon to his punishment at Castle Black, says that there always has to be a place for bastards and broken men. Jon is neither a bastard nor broken. Why does Jon have to return to Castle Black and be considered a bastard and/or broken. * *I preferred Jon, who never wanted to be king, to return to the North where it seemed he was happiest. But I wanted it to be his choice, not a punishment by his peers, whose lives he saved.
  4. Recently Martin said that The Winds of Winter will have UNICORNS. Really? I know it is a fantasy but we already have dragons, direwolves, and unseen ice spiders. We don't really need unicorns, we need the book. And the idea of totally fanciful unicorns scares me, like the book is moving from fantasy to a pre-teen fantasy romance. Maybe Martin was kidding.
  5. Two picks - Val and Mance. Val because when I read about her, I was certain she knew more than she let on and I always thought she descended from the Bael the Bard line. Also the essay The True Queen gave me new ideas about the importance of Val. Mance: Another man with values and ethics to impact the development of Jon Snow into the man he would become.
  6. lakin1013

    Where did Jon go ? SPOILERS

    The council scene was ridiculous but when engaged viewers begin to pull at individual threads, it becomes a mess. Either the council was saving Jon or punishing him. FOR EXAMPLE, Sansa knew what he wanted (how?) or Sansa wanted him gone cuz he would become King of something at the expense of her queen ambitions. Then why, at the very last goodbye did Sansa say "we did everything we could". We didn't hear her do anything so .... Arya knew what he wanted (how?) or she wanted him gone because he didn't want to be King. Then why, at the last goodbye, did she say absolutely nothing about his fate. Bran knew what Jon wanted (the only one who could really know) or he wanted him gone because he, Bran, wanted/intended/would be King. Then why, at the last goodbye, did he say that Jon was always exactly where he was supposed to be, so Bran used Jon. Davos said nothing good about Jon. Jon left Castle Black, or he left to escort the FreeFolk home, and would be right back. No way to know. In my head, Jon was championed by no one at the meeting, so he leaves castle black to live his best life with his friend and his dog. Want to disagree? Just read the post before mine. The show gives us no help at all. Re: the clothing change, I just thought Jon put on his warmer cloak. I cannot image he has been to J Crew lately.
  7. And one of the 3 determining Tyrion's fate was his legal WIFE. The concept of fairness did not accompany the incursion of Starbucks into Westeros.
  8. For those who did not notice the cars the first time (right side, far back)
  9. lakin1013

    Destiny of Jon Snow

    I agree with many of your points but ..... I do think Jon seemed to understand the rules the Freefolk lived under, their code of conduct, and a life of what you do, not what you say. Also, I think Jon and Mance and Tormund understood each other in a deep way. Qhorin taught Jon about the wildings. I have no issue with Jon being with the freefolk if it was HIS CHOICE! He was banished, exiled. The one true king was kicked outta town. That stinks. And nobody spoke for him at the trial. Nobody. Not his good cousin Sansa. Not his good cousin Arya. Not his BFF Sam. Not even Davos. What - nobody murdered in this group? Everyone here is horrified by Jon's act? Nobody is happy Jon removed Dany? Everyone was afraid of Greyworm? Jon's ending stunk. Because nobody spoke for him, and he was not given a choice. But where he ended up was where I hoped he would be. Doesn't mean he is stuck there forever. He might be King of the World in a few years.
  10. My first thought, seeing this teaser -was that if this wolf/dog is in this show, viewers will never see it again after the first viewing.
  11. I just checked that GoT petition and it is almost 1.5 million signers. Say what you want about the value or worth, a million and a half people (almost) have put their names on it. That is a lot of disappointed, angry people.
  12. How this Sansa demand for Northern independence was allowed into the scene is beyond me. BEYOND ME. Anybody watching a rehearsal would point out that if one country was going to get independence, then they would ALL want it. They left it in because if the director doesn't notice the water bottles, why would he/she notice the obvious. And did it strike anybody else that each representative seemed to get one vote at the council but the Starks got 3 votes. And why was that? Too stoopid.
  13. The water bottle. Surely someone has brought up the water bottle. Coupled with the Starbucks cup of last week, D&Ds indifference to the viewer is totally insulting.
  14. You mean the totally beat-up, tired, and on their 3rd war unsullied? What if the council said we will gather up ALL of our forces and your men will die?
  15. This was my HOPED-FOR ending for Jon, as long at it was his choosing. I even think he would have chosen the north but he did not get that moment of choice. He was banished, exiled, removed from his family. And I just loved the part where his family was saying goodbye to him and Sansa going "we did all we could" but she certainly got what she wanted. Or Bran with "you were exactly where you were supposed to be" so bye now, I am King. Jeez - without Jon, Dany would still be killing innocent others and ruling as a tyrant. I actually do think Jon was light-bringer, but nobody cared.
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