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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/12/us/new-orleans-sex-crimes-investigations/index.html?c=us&page=1






According to the seven-page document released Wednesday by the city's Office of Inspector General, a 2-year-old was brought to a hospital emergency room after an alleged sexual assault. Tests would show the toddler had a sexually transmitted disease, the report said. The detective in the case wrote in his report that the 2-year-old "did not disclose any information that would warrant a criminal investigation and closed the case," the inspector general's report said.


That's the most glaring "wtf!" example, but the level of systemic fuckery in that department is mindboggling. There's more in the article, but a few others jumped out at me.




Detective D told at least three different individuals that Detective D did not believe that simple rape should be a crime.




n another alleged sex assault cited in the report, a juvenile went to an emergency room and spoke to a specialist who reported that the child gave "specific information" about sexual and physical abuse perpetrated by "a named individual who was living in the same house with the juvenile." That person was a registered sex offender, according to the report. Detective A wrote that the child disclosed no information about a sexual assault and closed the case "due to a lack of evidence," the report said.

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FBI Report: Americans less violent than ever, except for police

According to new FBI statistics released this week, violent crime rates in the US fell over 4% in the past year alone, bringing the amount of violent crimes lower than it has been in nearly 40 years. The statistics showed that there were an estimated 1.16 million violent crimes in the year of 2013, which is the lowest number since 1978, when 1.09 million were recorded.
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While violence among citizens has dropped, violence against citizens carried out by police has been rising sharply.

According to the FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Report, 461 felony suspects were shot by police last year, which is the highest number seen in decades. These numbers are likely unreported as well, and only includes felony suspects, so it is possible that this figure is much higher than the study suggests.

No surprise there. We're living in a police state, where every single day a cop gets away with murder/assault on innocent civilians.

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Article from CNN about the assumption of criminality from Police toward blacks:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/17/opinion/tuttle-maing-stop-and-frisk-impact/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

From the article:

(CNN) -- Twenty-five-year-old New Yorker Aubura Taylor graduated with honors from college, where he was a football standout. He told us he goes to church regularly and is not involved in gangs or drugs. By any objective standard, there is no reason for police to be bothering him. But he says they are a constant presence in his life.

This summer, he recorded an interaction on his cell phone camera.

"Get inside, and get the f--k out of there!" the video begins, with a uniformed cop cursing from his cruiser as Taylor and a friend shelter from the rain at the entrance of his grandmother's housing development waiting for a ride to their boxing gym.

"Why are you talking to me like that?" Taylor asks incredulously.

"Get inside," the cop repeats again, walking toward them and kicking open the door to the building, "or I'll handcuff you."

"I'm not even doing anything."

"Get inside, now!"

Most Americans know about what happened to Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. And many know about the choke hold death of Eric Garner by police in Staten Island, New York. Grand juries are reviewing evidence in both cases and we could soon learn if there will be criminal charges against the officers involved.

But between these and other high profile cases are the invisible daily struggles of blacks like Taylor who live and work in what police departments across the nation identify as "high-crime" communities, and are policed with the assumption of criminality.

Taylor's video didn't go viral or make the nightly news because the cop didn't beat, arrest or kill him, fortunately. But it's regular interactions like these that are sending a message that your rights matter less to the police when you're black.

Either we have equal protection of law and equal treatment from police, or we don’t. It’s that simple.

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Yeah, that was normal where I grew up. My first serious interaction with a cop was when I was around 11 or 12. We were on our way home from the pool when me, my brother and some friends decided to play tag on top of some rail cars that were parked by some warehouses in our neighborhood. I guess someone called the cops and claimed we were stealing. I didn't see the cop approach us, I just noticed everyone running off and then I heard the cop yelling at them to stop. A friend and I weren't able to get away, not that I would've run off anyway. I figured an explanation would clear things up.

Anyway, this big white cop seperates me and my friend. He interrogates him first, then comes to over to me. I tell him that we were playing tag. He curses me out in an attempt to intimidate me, but my story doesn't change. Then he just cocks back his arm and whaap!, slaps me across the face. Two things minimized the damage, my quick reaction to bring my arm up to cover my face and the fact that I had my towel and trunks, rolled up, in my hand. The towel absorbed most of the blow. Even so, I rocked backwards, got dizzy for a few seconds, and became nervous that he might strike me again. I have a vague recollection that I pissed my pants from the blow also, but I'm not sure. And I guess I learned I can take a blow.

Ultimately, our stories must have been the same - I'm sure he was pressuring my friend as well - and he let us go, but not before cursing us out some more and threatening us about what he would do if he caught us near the tracks again.

Since then I've had both good and bad experiences with the police. And of course, I try to limit my interactions with them.

This was in Springfield, MA by the way, not NYC where I currently reside.

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The 911 call mentioned that the gun was probably fake and that the kid was a juvenile.

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The 911 call mentioned that the gun was probably fake and that the kid was a juvenile.

Which the Police claim wasn't relayed to them which is either horribly negligent and incompetent by the 911 people or a lie by the police to try and make their man look less at fault

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Actually the caller said, "probably fake", and when pressed, responded " I don't know if it's fake or not."

So in other words... probably fake

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If the caller couldn't definitively say the gun was fake, the only option available to police was to shoot him. Is that it TPTWP? Or if that 911 was right not to pass it on because it was only heavily suspected, not definitively known?

Both seem pretty absurd to me.

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If the caller couldn't definitively say the gun was fake, the only option available to police was to shoot him. Is that it TPTWP? Or if that 911 was right not to pass it on because it was only heavily suspected, not definitively known?

Both seem pretty absurd to me.

No just giving a more accurate description of the call. Larry didn't mention the rest of the call.

You're right both are absurd

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