Stannis's Lawyer Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2jc7u5/spoilers_all_advance_review_the_world_of_ice_and/As for the theories about the deepest secrets of the main series, I doubt the book will affect the conversation on them very much with a very notable exception, as one particularly controversial theory is about to become more popular than ever.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sages Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Sweet thanks for the update. Nice spoiler free review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bastards! I want a legal, early copy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 as one particularly controversial theory is about to become more popular than ever. Tyrion is a Targ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 as one particularly controversial theory is about to become more popular than ever. Tyrion is a Targ?Probably R+L=J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 as one particularly controversial theory is about to become more popular than ever. Tyrion is a Targ? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Probably R+L=JControversial. Can't think of one more controversial than Aerys+Joanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 It'll be referencing R+L = J. To people outside the forum, it is *the* hot theory. Indirectly, this is also further confirmation that Jon survives Bowen's attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Agrippa Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Ah hell now I am excited for spoilers. I don't even know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Controversial. Can't think of one more controversial than Aerys+Joanna. Even if that's true, it doesn't mean Tyrion is a Targ. In fact I'd much prefer it the other way around. Having Tyrion as Tywin's only child would be one final and amusing kick in the balls for the old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 nooo please, not A+J=T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCharles of HouseBarkley Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I find it hard to believe that a book written by a maester for Robert Joffrey Tommen would include gossip about the potential bastardry of any of the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Even if that's true, it doesn't mean Tyrion is a Targ. In fact I'd much prefer it the other way around. Having Tyrion as Tywin's only child would be one final and amusing kick in the balls for the old man.Same here. I don't want any of Tywin's kids to be secret Targs, but it's really the only theory that a lot of fans seem to be against. Most people on the forums and other boards accept R+L=J, so I don't believe it's the theory the reviewer is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Same here. I don't want any of Tywin's kids to be secret Targs, but it's really the only theory that a lot of fans seem to be against. Most people on the forums and other boards accept R+L=J, so I don't believe it's the theory the reviewer is talking about. R+L=J is well known by a very small handful of people; those of us who hang out on an internet forum are not representative. For your average reader or TV viewer though, R+L=J is mindblowing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonnyscouse Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 R+L=J is not controversial. Those that know about it either believe it, or hope it's not true for the reaction of those that believe it as canon. People not familiar with R+L=J are not familiar with any theory, so calling it unknown does not make it controversial. Controversial theories will be well-known amongst ASOIAF theorists but not amongst more general readers, and would be widely held to be wrong, hence controversial. As WOIAF is history by a maester it is unlikely current conspiracies (GNC, Dornish conspiracy, HR=HS) could be reinforced. As has been noted it is also unlikely that any A+J theory would be reinforced either. Most likely theories to be reinforced are Blackfyre theories if the Maester keeps records of the female line. So that would include the (f)Aegon, Varys theories as most likely as they are the most well-known ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 R+L=J is well known by a very small handful of people; those of us who hang out on an internet forum are not representative. For your average reader or TV viewer though, R+L=J is mindblowing stuff.Mindblowing maybe, but not controversial. It's already the most popular theory in the fandom, and a book written to King Robert Baratheon would likely avoid including any rumors of R+L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 as one particularly controversial theory is about to become more popular than ever. Tyrion is a Targ? Yes. Without a doubt. ETA: I still don't think it's true. But I've heard ... stuff ... that leads me to believe Aerys/Joanna gets a nod. ETA 2: Weirdly enough, it's actually because Aerys/Joanna allegedly gets a nod that I think the Tyrion thing isn't actually true. It comes off like GRRM's dangling it too much, if that makes sense. It's almost baiting. It could also be a case where the book mentions Aerys/Joanna but stops short of implying an affair, leading people to conclude that the book says something that it actually doesn't, sort like how everyone thinks a Stark dishonored Ashara at Harrenhal when that isn't actually what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 No... please... no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Agrippa Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Wait wouldn't it be Jaime and Cersei- I mean if you think of it.... Those two remind me more of targs then Tyrion does. Tyrion is way... too rational. I guess I need to read this. Do we have a link to go a good tyrion and a good Jamie/Cersei one? Thanks in advanced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Wait wouldn't it be Jaime and Cersei- I mean if you think of it.... Those two remind me more of targs then Tyrion does. Tyrion is way... too rational. I guess I need to read this. Do we have a link to go a good tyrion and a good Jamie/Cersei one? Thanks in advanced! Without pulling my skirt up too high, let's hypothetically say that maybe the Aerys/Joanna material could equally apply to the twins, if not more so than Tyrion, but that it's Tyrion who will probably get the attention because of the higher popularity of the theory relating to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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