JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The history has her stating that she'd rather die than surrendering. Then she was betrayed and delivered to Orys stripped and chained. She was betrayed by her own people, and her supposed enemy actually covered her nakedness and feed her, and adopted her house as his own in everything but name. There you have your classic elements in romance for love at first sight, although in this case, it wasn't probably love but agreement on them actually working together to bring peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 She was betrayed by her own people, and her supposed enemy actually covered her nakedness and feed her, and adopted her house as his own in everything but name. There you have your classic elements in romance for love at first sight, although in this case, it wasn't probably love but agreement on them actually working together to bring peace. He acted like a human being as for adopting her house for all we know he didn't had a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 She was betrayed by her own people, and her supposed enemy actually covered her nakedness and feed her, and adopted her house as his own in everything but name. There you have your classic elements in romance for love at first sight, although in this case, it wasn't probably love but agreement on them actually working together to bring peace. Yeah, and look who wrote that down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 " Where is her vagina?" :lol: DUDE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib_Juju Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He'd probably write a sad song about Jon and flip his hair in a despondent sort of way. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He acted like a human being as for adopting her house for all we know he didn't had a house. He was given Storm's End. He kept the Dundarron words and symbols, as a way of respect, in the same way the Targaryens allowed the people to keep their religions. Any other man could have said F Everything and make his own house out of nowhere and have Argella killed (considering her people was the one who delivered her naked to Orys, they wouldn't mind). Also, we don't know the circumstances of their marriage. It looks to me that it was a political marriage they both agree for the sake of everybody. Maybe he ended up loving her, and maybe she ended up loving him as well, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 "Hmm, looks like this one is TPTWP." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenKing23 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 He'd probably write a sad song about Jon and flip his hair in a despondent sort of way. :( Even though I don't know what despondent means I still feel like you won the thread, so, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 "Do I look so sullen too?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The history has her stating that she'd rather die than surrendering. Then she was betrayed and delivered to Orys stripped and chained. Ah, I'd missed that. Of course I could always respond that some women do play hard to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ah, I'd missed that. Of course I could always respond that some women do play hard to get. That would be damn close to rape apology. Do you really want to go there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat of the Rivers Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 How do you know that Argella even liked her father? She might have been glad to marry the man who kicked his ass. LIke BBE has stated she would have died than surrendered until she was betrayed. Also even if she hated her father I doubt that she would love the man who stole her lands, her castle and changed her last name forcefully. Ah, I'd missed that. Of course I could always respond that some women do play hard to get. Please think about what you've just typed. She was betrayed by her own people, and her supposed enemy actually covered her nakedness and feed her, and adopted her house as his own in everything but name. There you have your classic elements in romance for love at first sight, although in this case, it wasn't probably love but agreement on them actually working together to bring peace. So when Sansa married Tyrion it was "working together to bring peace"? Not a girl who was seeing everything she loved (her lands, castle, banners, words, father) getting taken away and forcefully married and raped? He was given Storm's End. He kept the Dundarron words and symbols, as a way of respect, in the same way the Targaryens allowed the people to keep their religions. Any other man could have said F Everything and make his own house out of nowhere and have Argella killed (considering her people was the one who delivered her naked to Orys, they wouldn't mind). Also, we don't know the circumstances of their marriage. It looks to me that it was a political marriage they both agree for the sake of everybody. Maybe he ended up loving her, and maybe she ended up loving him as well, who knows. The same way Tyrion was given Winterfell as a prize. If Tyrion decided to keep the Stark words and banners out of respect it would be okay? It's a political marriage the same way Tyrion and Sansa's marriage was a political one. But it's not typical because in a usual situation both parties consent (the parents of the bride and groom) and in this situation the father was killed and the girl was dragged in chains to him. The problem is here that Argella didn't have a choice, she didn't have any options so there was no way in hell she would have the opportunity "agree for the sake of everybody." And anyways it's not like Orys let Argella go after feeding her fruit and stuff. He still married her and she still got raped. He chose the morally abhorrent decision to gain a keep and some lands. Sansa would never love Tyrion and I think that Argella would have never loved the man who did that to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellfoy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I wonder if Jon would be any good at playing a harp if he tried. I have always said that Mance should teach him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The Gar would just be happy that Jon even survived, I think. That somehow he was able to grow up as the "son" of the best friend of the man who killed him.He'd also probably be stoked that Jon got to bang a redhead. Rhaegar was looking for a ginger to have his third son, it is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat of the Rivers Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I have always said that Mance should teach him ! Speculation: Has Jon inherited Rhaegar's "iron tones" or not? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Jon is a badass. Lord Commander of the watch. Battle tested. Yeah, he'd be proud and impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthosian Stark Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 ... Is this before or after Jon kills him for kidnapping his aunt/mom and causing his uncle and grandfather to die?Unless Howland has a minute with him before Rhaegar walks in, I don't think Jon would let him get the thought out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Seriously doubt Jon would just try and kill him outright. There's never been any hint that would be the case. Where do you get the idea that Jon would blame him for Rickard/Brandon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgul-Blade Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Rhaegar would probably think that Ned Stark's bastard isn't half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 That would be damn close to rape apology. Do you really want to go there? No, it wouldn't. It would be a joke. There's a huge difference between the two. Some people seriously need to lighten up. Especially as we do not know that the character in question was raped. It's likely but it is not certain. AND THIS IS FICTION! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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