Ser Uncle P Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yup, Ned was Roberts bestie and henchman in the rebellion, but it should have been a Stormlander leading the relief force sent to break Mace Tyrell's siege. Mace was basically taking the piss out of the Stormlords with his siege, it should have been a local to accept Mace's surrendery and rub his nose in it. Robert dishonoured his own power base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnips in the Night Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Robert didn't have a choice. Ned stormed out of KL do to the Targ baby murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastTymor Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Mace could call on tens of thousands of soldiers and potentially prolong the civil war for a generation- there was nothing to gain and everything to lose from pissing him off. Leniency and pardons were unambiguously the right call in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Why? Ned was rebellion's co-leader and by all accounts a great general. And when you have a sizeable force to command, you want your best man in charge of it, not somebody minor just to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserys - The last dragon Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 How many soldiers did Ned bring? To lift the siege? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 How many soldiers did Ned bring? To lift the siege? Enough to cow Mace Tyrell into submission and surrender. I don't think we're given exact numbers here. Rebels' hist was 35k large before the battle of Trident. They lost some men in the battle, while many others were presumably too weak/wounded/not needed to March to Strom's End with Ned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 How many soldiers did Ned bring? To lift the siege? Probably not many. The war was over, Aerys, Aegon and Rhaegar dead, there was little for the Reach to fight on for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Believe me, the stormlords BEING sieged wouldn´t mind if it was an OTHER lifting it...But i get your point, let mace know it was a stormlord that stopped him... well stannis resisted the chalenge and ned was acting in Robert´s name so... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 "Oh sorry Stannis, we would've been here sooner but we had to wait a few more days for a Stormlander to get to the army so he could lead the invasion... otherwise it would've been an insult to end your starvation, right?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmnomnomPomelo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yes, I think too that after Aerys died Ned lifted the siege since the Robert wasn't nearby and then Ned went to the Tower of Joy from Storm's End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Literally no one in the story feels insulted that Ned lifted the siege rather than someone from the Stormlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Sauce Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If Robert was never injured he would have went. And well Stannis was in the castle and Renly was still young etc. But it didnt really matter who went to lift it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulthosian Stark Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Literally no one in the story feels insulted that Ned lifted the siege rather than someone from the Stormlands. This. It's a silly superficial notion really, I mean Neds army probably had stromlanders in it, just not Robert or Stannis, and Ned is the Wolf of Winterfell. He probably scared the piss out of flowery Mace and his summer knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 There were exactly three Stormlanders on the same social level as Mace Tyrell such that they'd have any authority to negotiate ending the siege. One was a child, one was injured and recovering in the capital and one was in the damn castle that was being besieged. And as was said, nobody (certainly not Stannis, who was actually the most affected) seems to care that it was Ned who lifted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I don't think it's a big deal. Ned was an essential and trusted member of the alliance ad he probably needed some space after Robert and Jon pardoned the Lannisters so he went to break the siege of Storms End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theon {HUNGRY WOLF} Stark Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What does it matter who lifted the siege? Ned was on same social level as Mace and three Stormlanders on same level were unable to come to lift the Siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdt Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The only reason Ned was able to lift it, because Stannis was to stubborn to give in to Mace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yup, Ned was Roberts bestie and henchman in the rebellion, but it should have been a Stormlander leading the relief force sent to break Mace Tyrell's siege.Mace was basically taking the piss out of the Stormlords with his siege, it should have been a local to accept Mace's surrendery and rub his nose in it. Robert dishonoured his own power base.Coulda shoulda woulda, Ned was in command of the Army and he was the one to lift the siege and force the reach lords to bend the Knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oopeed Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ned was the second-in-command from the rebellion and his name was being considered for hand of the king. Also Stannis and his pals were on the verge of starving, so that gives no time for playing games. Besides, it's more effective if the Lord of Winterfell, head of one of the most respected and feared houses in Westeros appears to shoo you off... Mace is as far as we know, a vain stupid mongrel. he was not likely to engage in battle when most of the kingdom bowed to Robert, but sendind your best enforcer served as a reminder of his own uselessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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