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Season 5 Casting, News and Speculation V12 [show spoilers, book spoilers past OP]


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Not yet, sati, not yet. ;)

In seriousness though, it's just a clarification that I think is worth making.

And in all seriousness it's also worth clarifying if the person who feels the need to interject everywhere to make sure nobody criticizes D&D too much to the point that they start writing about definition of words and finish the post with something like 'proceed' is doing it out of their own volition. If you are not getting paid, write to them, because you don't miss even one opportunity to do that, which is commitment. Very futile commitment, but still.

Isn't the press just interested in the main cast anyway?

For that matter the cameras are only interested in what female main cast members are wearing on the Red Carpet. (The heck with the male cast!)

Well last year there was a lot of cast members there....I'm sure there will be several this year too, cannot imagine just 5 or 6 showing up

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When does the premiere start anyways?

Red carpet arrivals from 6.30pm, the actual screening starts at 8pm.

Live coverage of the carpet and interviews with Thronecast hosts Jamie East and Sue Perkins will be shown on the screens both inside the screening tent and outside for fans and public to view on the walls of the castle.

The ‘Game of Thrones: World Premiere’ programme will be shown on Sky Atlantic, Thursday 19th March, 10pm.
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Well last year there was a lot of cast members there....I'm sure there will be several this year too, cannot imagine just 5 or 6 showing up

For the season 3 Red Carpet in LA Ben Hawkey seemed to be there, but one didn't know that until days later.

And Rory McCann was almost hidden!, but he was in LA for season3 premiere.

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And in all seriousness it's also worth clarifying if the person who feels the need to interject everywhere to make sure nobody criticizes D&D too much to the point that they start writing about definition of words and finish the post with something like 'proceed' is doing it out of their own volition. If you are not getting paid, write to them, because you don't miss even one opportunity to do that, which is commitment. Very futile commitment, but still.

I was being more pedantic than anything, sati. My only real "commitment" in this fandom is to figuring out exactly what the general thrust of the adaptation will be. It does so happen that I enjoy the adaptation more than some around here but I don't think at least that that makes me some servile creature of HBO's. Nor do I think it's entirely futile for me to make an interjection like that from time to time.

Anyways, I've been glad that to see you back around these parts, so I won't take your scrutiny too much to heart.

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Red carpet arrivals from 6.30pm, the actual screening starts at 8pm.

Live coverage of the carpet and interviews with Thronecast hosts Jamie East and Sue Perkins will be shown on the screens both inside the screening tent and outside for fans and public to view on the walls of the castle.

The ‘Game of Thrones: World Premiere’ programme will be shown on Sky Atlantic, Thursday 19th March, 10pm.

Huh, so it's only gonna air tomorrow? That decreases the chance for new trailer unless they simply upload it on online platforms and show it to the crowd gathered at the premiere anyways

I was being more pedantic than anything, sati. My only real "commitment" in this fandom is to figuring out exactly what the general thrust of the adaptation will be. It does so happen that I enjoy the adaptation more than some around here but I don't think at least that that makes me some servile creature of HBO's. Nor do I think it's entirely futile for me to make an interjection like that from time to time.

Anyways, I've been glad that to see you back around these parts, so I won't take your scrutiny too much to heart.

Right, you seem to have different definition of 'from time to time' than I do. But...proceed.

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For the season 3 Red Carpet in LA Ben Hawkey seemed to be there, but one didn't know that until days later.

And Rory McCann was almost hidden!, but he was in LA for season3 premiere.

and James Cosmo too, but would never have known it.

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Right, you seem to have different definition of 'from time to time' than I do.

My definition of from time to time is "occasionally". I much prefer to do other things here but sometimes I feel snipping and sniping is merited.

But...proceed.

Touché, I guess.

Anyways, here's an olive branch for you. https://gfycat.com/HeavenlyJauntyAngora Not that you haven't seen that gif before, I know you have, but you may not have seen Abyss's gifycat of it...

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If D&D feared that Unsullied wouldn't remember that Catelyn was called Cat etc how can they suppose that Unsullied will remember Bran (not NK Bran) since he isn't appearing for whole season?

People will remember Bran just fine. For the really forgetful though, there's always the "previously-on" segments.

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"Show-only material" is the simplest and most neutral way to put it, to my mind.

I'm by no means saying y'all oughtn't criticise the writing, only that we shouldn't equate material with GrrM's seal of approval with things without it. Just a nitpick really but I consider it an important one.

He sold the rights to adapt the story, that doesn't mean he approves of everything they do. They just said in a recent article, they don't always agree.

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He sold the rights to adapt the story, that doesn't mean he approves of everything they do. They just said in a recent article, they don't always agree.

I know. But still the licensing from him means that it isn't really fan-fiction, no matter what else you may want to say about it. That's all I was saying. That distinction is an important one and one that I think GrrM would feel strongly about making too given his disapproval of actual fan-fiction.

I wonder if they didn't have time for Tysha cough beetles cough why didn't they show her in previously on?

Because that was a change they wanted to make that had much less impact on the story than some of us thought, it seems. Bran returning to the story in s6 is obviously more important.

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You're all right of course. wow there is a lot to fit into Arya's story...i wonder how they will do it? Here's a revised timeline. There's also two 'street toughs' that were cast for Braavos right? and we orignally thought they would be for Sam. Since it seems he won't be going to Braavos i'm going to try and incorporate them into Arya's story:

E1 absent

E2 Arya arrives in Braavos, gets rowed in by the ship captain. She thinks on it a while and then enters the HoBaW, the kindly man asks who sent her, arya replies Jaquen H'ghar, he tells her to prove herself. Arya wanders around Braavos and comes across street toughs who pick on her. Arya kills the street toughs, when she goes back to the HoBaW the kindly man accepts her who then changes his face to Jaquen. Later on in the episode Arya is told to let go of everything she owns because she must become 'no one', she hides needle but throws everything else into the canals. Officially becomes an Acolyte.

E3 Arya meets the Waif who shows her the duties she must complete whilst in the HoBaW. She also starts training her in the Braavosi language and they play a game of lies. The kindly man tests her on her lying ability and she fails. He leads her to the hallway of Gods explaining why there are so many, there they see a 'despondent man' praying for his daughter to get well.

E4 Arya starts getting better at Braavosi language and the lying game. Arya sees the despondent man return to the HoBaW, this time with his ill daughter Ghita, she sees them drinking something from the pools and collapsing. Their bodies are sent to another room, the kindly man leads her down there and she seems that their belongings are taken and then the bodies are delivered to a 'restricted' section of the HoBaW where she is yet to be allowed to go.

E5 absent

E6 Arya gets her first assignment as Cat of the Canals. She meets Brusco and is told to sell fish, she wanders around the canals, getting to know the city. She becomes familiar with the women at a brothel down by the canals. One man tells her how to cut a purse open without the person knowing. Each time the kindly man asks her to tell him 3 things new things each day.

E7 Arya gets a lesson about poisons from the Waif/Kindly man. She is told by the kindly man that they have an assignment for her. The insurance salesmen. Arya disguised as Cat of the Canals, follows the insurance salesmen around, seeing that he bites every coin.

E8 abesnt

E9 Arya gets disguised as Ghita (ill child) on the day she executes her plan to kill the insurance salesman, the plan goes well and the insurance man is assasinated. Arya rushes back to the HoBaW and becomes Cat of the Canals again. Later Arya spots Meryn Trant and Mace Tyrell in Braavos. Arya goes against the rules of the FM and follows Meryn to the brothel by the canal, and kills him. Later that day Arya tells the kindly man 1. an insurance salesman was poisoned today 2.Mace Tyrell is in Braavos meeting with Tycho Nestoris and 3. Meryn Trant was killed by Arya Stark.

E10 . Arya drinks something and wakes up blind. Time passes and she gets to use her other senses. Her arc ends with getting her first assignment.

On Arya's language lessons I wonder how the show will handle that, what do you guys think? Will they have her learn just straight Valyrian, Valyrian with focusing on a Braavosi accent, a bastardized form of Valyrian, or create a new Braavosi language? I think the first more likely than the rest, the second still possible with the rest seeming superfluous.

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Because that was a change they wanted to make with less impact on the story than some of us thought, it seems. Bran returning to the story in s6 is obviously more important.

Aye. But there are theories about Jaime's and Tyrion's future relationship. IIRC in ADwD Tyrion sees a dream. In that dream he has two heads and kills his father without a second thought and then also kills Jaime but after killing him realizes that his second head is crying.

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I know. But still the licensing from him means that it isn't really fan-fiction, no matter what else you may want to say about it. That's all I was saying. That distinction is an important one and one that I think GrrM would feel strongly about making too given his disapproval of actual fan-fiction.

GRRM can make his own points. We can make ours. I say Jaime in Dorne is fanfic.

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GRRM can make his own points. We can make ours. I say Jaime in Dorne is fanfic.

It seems that we are supposed to just accept that as long as something is not the textbook defintiin of fanfiction, GRRM doesn't like fanfiction, GRRM claims D&D's ideas are not fanfiction, we don't get to call it fanfiction.

Yeah, I'll call it whatever I want, I think.

And yes Jaime in Dorne sure is the example of that, actually IMHO many of the things in the show are, beforementioned lack of Tysha being another example.

On Arya's language lessons I wonder how the show will handle that, what do you guys think? Will they have her learn just straight Valyrian, Valyrian with focusing on a Braavosi accent, a bastardized form of Valyrian, or create a new Braavosi language? I think the first more likely than the rest, the second still possible with the rest seeming superfluous.

Valyrian would be my bet, to simplify it a bit for the audience

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