Zazawaza Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that he probably wasn't. Now at this point should we even be trying to guess who the harpy is or is there just no leader of the sons of the harpy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nan Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 After the departure from the books this season, who can even guess? Hizdahr could be coldhands or the Hound with plastic surgery, or spiderman for all we know, this is HBO's world now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that he probably wasn't. Now at this point should we even be trying to guess who the harpy is or is there just no leader of the sons of the harpy? I suspect Daario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrake34 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I don't even know if the show is going to deal with the leader of the Harpies. They're just a random terrorist group on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelindis Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Maybe there isn't a Harpy (in the show, at least). If it wasn't for the fact that Daario was away in Yunkai with Hizdahr when the Sons of the Harpy started their attacks, I'd currently be very inclined to think that Daario was behind them. He said that he wanted Dany to slaughter all the nobles when everyone was assembled at Daznak's Pit - and I think that's exactly what just happened. It seemed like a lot of the people attacked by the Sons of the Harpy were wearing clothing typical of nobles. Plus, there's the fact that they murdered Hizdahr. Of course, there are a few other points against this: Daario fought the Sons of the Harpy, plus they were trying to kill Dany. Also, he looked a bit surprised when Hizdahr got murdered, but that might've been because it happened just as Hizdahr was trying to show them a way out, and Daario was surprised that Hizdahr was still genuinely trying to help Dany. If Daario was the culprit, I feel like the actual purpose of the Sons of the Harpy would be to make Dany crack down on the nobles (who she thinks of as being behind the SotH), resulting in Dany becoming the butcher Daario feels that she needs to be. In his mind, he'd be able to protect her from any attacks, so she'd make the through the day. However, I just can't get past the fact that the attacks started while he was away... Still, Daario at least had a bit more warning about that trip than Hizdahr. Hizdahr was just appointed as Dany's ambassador to Yunkai out of the blue, with no idea he was being sent on this mission. Thus, from that perspective, Daario would at least have more of an opportunity to set things up. All that being said, Daario and Hizdahr are like balancing forces for war and peace (their shared advocacy of the fighting pits notwithstanding), so in a way it makes for better symmetry if both are sincerely arguing for their way of doing things without any secret tools to force Dany's hand if she doesn't heed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matoro Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 D&D won't care. The Harpies are just a terrorist organization of super ninjas murdering random people. That's all you need to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullendores monkey Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I didn't see any blood when hizdar got stabbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnowed Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Thank you for posting this as it seems to have been lost in all the other stuff, with Hizdar dead if there is a leader then surely it's Dario, remember they were slaughtering the Meerenese masters and wanted Dany, who stands to gain from this only Dario in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mish Windage Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That part where he was late and all just making sure things were in order I was thinking he was planning something... and then he got stabbed. There went that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrake34 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Another interesting change, the wedding doesn't happen on the show. Dany is still single and ready to mingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgf Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The harpy's shouldn't have a leader in either books or show. Much more interesting as a natural popular reaction to Dany's conquest than as the work of one brilliant schemer pulling the string...although the green grace probably is the harpy in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In the show their isn't. Its just a group of super trained unsullied Barristian killing machines that shuffle about on the spot when they finally have the opportunity to kill Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrake34 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In the show their isn't. Its just a group of super trained unsullied Barristian killing machines that shuffle about on the spot when they finally have the opportunity to kill Dany. That was ridiculous. They had her surrounded, they could have rushed in and ended it right there. Maybe they didn't because Daario is their leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 After the departure from the books this season, who can even guess? Hizdahr could be coldhands or the Hound with plastic surgery, or spiderman for all we know, this is HBO's world now. I'm really looking forward to a eeanimated Red Viper fighting Stoneman Mormont. HBO's Game of Thrones, Season 5, is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 So is Dany down to like 6 unsullied in her army? In the previews it shows Daario Tyrion and Jorah chillin, how did they get away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertylanding Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 So is Dany down to like 6 unsullied in her army? In the previews it shows Daario Tyrion and Jorah chillin, how did they get away? Drogon thinned the SotH horde enough for them to cut their way to safety, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Drogon thinned the SotH horde enough for them to cut their way to safety, presumably.I wonder what happens to Rhaenys and Visceron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeThemBurn Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That part where he was late and all just making sure things were in order I was thinking he was planning something... and then he got stabbed. There went that theory. Or he could have been one of the Harpies, but got killed for mingling with Dany. You know how fanatics are. If you're not as crazy as the craziest wing, then you're treated as a traitor. I have to admit I was looking for a clue for the identity of the Harpy this season but could be that there is none in the show version. After all, ADWD introduced a big number of new characters which left us guessing which one is the bad guy. Since tv works with a budget, it could be that they simply decided to drop the entire "Who's the Harpy" mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 His line about "checking on things" certainly sent up a red flag big enough that I was surprised when he was stabbed. I still don't even get what's up with the Harpies on the show. They killed more random people in the stands than they did Dany's soldiers. I thought they were supposed to be rallying the people against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nan Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 His line about "checking on things" certainly sent up a red flag big enough that I was surprised when he was stabbed. I still don't even get what's up with the Harpies on the show. They killed more random people in the stands than they did Dany's soldiers. I thought they were supposed to be rallying the people against her.Yeah, well you can't really think about these things for longer than 5 seconds or you'll realize that half the shit they do makes no sense. Marrying Lenny Kravitzdar was supposed to stop the harpy attacks, now they're stabbing him, random people in the stands who they're supposed to be fighting FOR, etc. Maybe they all got high on PCP and went berserk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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