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Just now, the tower of albion said:

If littlefinger was to fall (personally I doubt it - the cockroaches always survive) do you think he'd die like a man or squeal and squirm and beg for his life.

Or let the others take him.

He'll beg for his life.

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49 minutes ago, GeorgeIAF said:

He'll beg for his life.

He will first try and use wit, and explain all the benefits and uses he has, in an attempt to justify living.

 

Once that fails he will beg like a crying baby lol.

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I think in the books and in the show the army of the Vale will ride north.  In the books I assume Sansa will be the motivating force and in the show we get LF manipulating the story line.  In both cases I expect that it will result in Sansa getting the upper hand on LF.  In the show I expect this will end with LF dead and Brienne swinging the sword (or maybe Royce).

While the show is going its separate ways this season, I think it will bend back towards the skeleton of the plot, that D&D have, by episode 10.  This includes most of the main players in the right locations.  When it is all said and done the show will have a very similar ending to the books (seasons 7 part 1 and seasons 7 part 2).  

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13 hours ago, tmug said:

I just hope young-ish Robin won't remember that bitch slap Sansa gave him for ruining her snowcastle and then turn on her. It seems like something he would do.

Did you notice that Littlefinger brought young-ish Robin a Falcon of all things? Perhaps LF in a way is saying he is changing his sigil from a Mockingbird to a Falcon. Young-ish Robin always taking about making people "fly", the kid seems to have a fascination with "flight".

Falcon is the sigil of House Arryn, is it not?

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6 hours ago, God-Emperor of Yi Ti said:

i would think there is a good chance that's what will happen...

So far, the Manderlys are essentially a non-entity on the show. I am so hoping for the GNC, but given who the show has introduced this season, the best we can probably hope for is that Umber betrays Bolton and Karstark within the walls of Winterfell during the siege, with Umber replacing Manderly, forgoing the intra-family conflicts for House Umber in the books. The show hasn't even mentioned that either Umbers or Manderlys are still being held by Lannisters or Freys.

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2 hours ago, GeorgeIAF said:

Littlefinger underestimating Sansa will be the downfall of him.

Maybe. But I think that LF has to end upon the Iron Throne. He won't last very long there but he will get there.

As for who offs him, my guess would be Arya. she has to off some pretty high up folk for that ninja training to pay off. And there aren't many targets left. 

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7 minutes ago, hallam said:

Maybe. But I think that LF has to end upon the Iron Throne. He won't last very long there but he will get there.

As for who offs him, my guess would be Arya. she has to off some pretty high up folk for that ninja training to pay off. And there aren't many targets left. 

I'm willing to take a bet that LF will not get even close to the IT and will fail miserably in the end, being exposed as the fraud he is. And he will be killed by Sansa while she will deliver a line saying that she knew all along not to trust him and that he was one of the reasons of her family's downfall (she will learn about his involvement in Ned's offing).

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31 minutes ago, hallam said:

Maybe. But I think that LF has to end upon the Iron Throne. He won't last very long there but he will get there.

As for who offs him, my guess would be Arya. she has to off some pretty high up folk for that ninja training to pay off. And there aren't many targets left. 

I think so as well. Although it seems highly unlikely given the current situation, I think that he will get very high on the ladder of chaos just to fall just as fast. I suppose that he has a better chance to reach the top in the books than in the show though.

LF isn't on Arya's little creepy list though. Not that it would stop her, what I mean is that because he isn't on her list, she won't actively look for him so unless she stumbles upon him and decides to kill him just to be sure, I don't see it happening.And good luck to Arya to meet him by coincidence considering his transport machine - isn't it a bit of a plot hole that he travels the Seven Kingdoms throught and throught with a minimal escort? Not to mention that it takes him about 5 episodes to go from KL to the Vale but then he jumps to the North in a matter of one episode? Infinite Improbability Drive anyone? ;)

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15 hours ago, tmug said:

I just hope young-ish Robin won't remember that bitch slap Sansa gave him for ruining her snowcastle and then turn on her. It seems like something he would do.

Did you notice that Littlefinger brought young-ish Robin a Falcon of all things? Perhaps LF in a way is saying he is changing his sigil from a Mockingbird to a Falcon. Young-ish Robin always taking about making people "fly", the kid seems to have a fascination with "flight".

the sigil of House Arryn is a falcon... 

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I actually think this is one of those times where Littlefinger's motivations are pretty clear and obvious. Not mischevious or unknown. 

He wants to go get Sansa, and use the Knights of the Vale to strategically win back Winterfell for himself + Sansa. 

His whole line about "entering the fray" suggests that he's actually ready to play a direct part in war this time, rather than being a snake on the sidelines - his MO so far through 5 seasons. 

 

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when I saw the trailer of the episode, it seems Lf in the north, it's snowing and it seems to speak to someone with a hood after you see LF turn and appears to be trying to escape.
I do not know if this is so, but if it were those who could be? you have any idea?

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He will liberate the north with possibly the strongest present military force in the name of SR, attempt to become warden of the north and attempt to marry sansa and rule from winterfell. Since he has SR's ear and will ask him to appoint him warden and legitimize his claim (Cersei wouldnt mind having him as Warden of the north either) From there i expect him to begin conquest into the riverlands where he i believe may meet LSH (imagine his shock)

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5 hours ago, hesitantreader said:

I think in the books and in the show the army of the Vale will ride north.  In the books I assume Sansa will be the motivating force and in the show we get LF manipulating the story line.  In both cases I expect that it will result in Sansa getting the upper hand on LF.  In the show I expect this will end with LF dead and Brienne swinging the sword (or maybe Royce).

In the books, it was mentioned that the snow has already made it impossible to cross the passes out of the Vale with an army. So, unless there is a false spring, being transported by a fleet may be the only way for a Vale army to get involved in the north. Manderly does have ships, maybe those will play a role, but I'm uncertain about the course of the Vale armies in the books.

The scene with Royce seems like a very abbreviated form to show LF's influence over Robin and the lords of the Vale (quite believable in the context of Sansa's book storyline, it seems a bit incredulous in the show as LF seems to order Royce's men, or Arryn men that should trust Royce rather than LF, around). I was glad that Royce didn't get killed; if he was, the consequences for the equivalent storyline in the books looked rather dire. I hope Sansa and Royce will be on the same side, eventually, but if LF gets him killed that's not gonna happen.

As it happened this episode, seems we're back to the situation in the books (more or less): the Vale lords/armies are mostly in LF's pocket, but Royce personally seems to be biding his time to do something about it.

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