Fragile Bird Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have been hearing the news of shootings in Nova Scotia all day and I was wondering why there hasn't been more information. I just switched back to CBC and, horrors, at least 13 dead, plus the gunman. I am shocked beyond belief. A 51-year old white man, well-known and respected in his community. I am so sorry for the victims, may they rest in peace. eta: now it's at least 16 dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 He was a dentist who has been out of business due to the current situation...maybe lockdown drove him mad? Still trying to make sense of that one. It’s a weird news environment for this (very big) story to break in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyria Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Paxter said: He was a dentist who has been out of business due to the current situation...maybe lockdown drove him mad? Still trying to make sense of that one. It’s a weird news environment for this (very big) story to break in. He was a denturist. We drive by the business on our way to Mr. Tyr's parent's place. The giant mouth on the building always freaks me out. It's so acid flash backy. It's really hard to find the words for it all. It's just so surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Paxter said: He was a dentist who has been out of business due to the current situation...maybe lockdown drove him mad? Still trying to make sense of that one. It’s a weird news environment for this (very big) story to break in. From what Brook and I saw he started with his ex wife and her new partner. The fake police car etc shows a fair bit of premeditation too, possibly too long to really attribute it to financial down turn from covid. Seems like a family annihilation type that decided to go on a rampage after that, probably feeling like a failure under some fucked up definition of manhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, karaddin said: From what Brook and I saw he started with his ex wife and her new partner. The fake police car etc shows a fair bit of premeditation too, possibly too long to really attribute it to financial down turn from covid. Seems like a family annihilation type that decided to go on a rampage after that, probably feeling like a failure under some fucked up definition of manhood. The RCMP fascination/obsession is an interesting element too. Changing tack back to COVID, I notice that Alberta's testing numbers are pretty high. Is that driving the spike we've seen there in recent days? Fatalities-wise, Alberta is still tracking OK (similar to BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, karaddin said: The fake police car etc shows a fair bit of premeditation too, possibly too long to really attribute it to financial down turn from covid. I thought it sounded like something he'd put a significant amount of planning into too. Apparently he collected RCMP memorabilia though so maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I have been watching the coverage of the events in Nova Scotia. What a demented scum bag he was. Had his imitation RCMP police cruiser, had his uniform, probably drove from murder site to murder site and just knocked on doors. People saw a cruiser and went to answer the door to find out what the police wanted. In rural Nova Scotia, you trust the Mounties. There may be more dead because the bastard burned down 5 houses, where I'm sure more bodies will be found. There are 16 murder scenes over a 55 km route Burn in hell, buddy. eta: one of the 5 houses he burned down was his own, so there will be no computers or laptops to be found with information to uncover, no notebooks or plans. We may never know why he did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Reptitious Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Looks like we now know what caused that surge in Covid-19 cases in Alberta: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cargill-alberta-covid-19-deena-hinshaw-1.5537377?fbclid=IwAR3C_xV88NXe__FJfuWivC1-8PNOjlwQDixFhIoqN0wEs6CjjYxFiQC_cWg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 The death toll in Nova Scotia is now 20. Reporters said digging equipment was brought in this morning. Since he burned down 5 houses I assume they need the equipment to turn over the ruins. Also, some troops, or militia, were moved in, likely to guard various sites, since there are so many murder scenes there simply aren't enough police. I saw an interview with a woman on CBC. She and her husband went out on their morning walk on Sunday. They normally walk along a road, but the husband suggested they take a path into the woods to the river instead. A few minutes later they heard what they thought were shots. Turns out their neighbour was also out on her morning walk and was gunned down on the road. They didn't know about the murderous rampage going on until they got home and another neighbour called to tell them the news. They, and a lot of other people, wonder why the heck the province did not send out an emergency alert once the first people were shot. Nova Scotia, like Ontario, used the emergency alert system to warn about Covid-19, which I thought was overkill, but I guess some people don't pay attentiuon to the news. You'd think the fact a gunman was out and about was worth a similar warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Update April 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 BC 27 44 14 43 29 52 25 AB 138 126 162 239 165 241 105 187 ON 483 494 514 564 485 568 606 551 PQ 691 612 997 941 723 836 962 807 The rest 44 42 40 34 54 28 50 21 1383 1318 1727 1821 1456 1673 1775 1591 BC is still in great shape. That Monday number is Saturday and Sunday combined. I saw an interview with the leader of the union for the workers in the Alberta Cargill plant. He was pretty scathing about the company. Ontario continues to ramp up testing, Among other institutions, a Brampton jail had 60 inmates test positive, plus staff. Otherwise the province says community cases (versus institutions like nursing homes) have been steadily dropping. I'm sure Ontario's numbers would be just as high as Quebec's if we included people who call in to a health line or their doctor, describe their symptoms and get told they may have Covid-19 and they should quarantine themselves. The Rest number is low because Nova Scotia seems to alternate low and high numbers, today it was only 16. The smaller provinces have either 0 new cases, 1 for Manitoba and 4 for Saskatchewan. Dare I hope, Toronto seems to have plateaued. Here's a link to Toronto's page, now let's see a drop this week. https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-latest-city-of-toronto-news/covid-19-status-of-cases-in-toronto/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: The death toll in Nova Scotia is now 20. Reporters said digging equipment was brought in this morning. Since he burned down 5 houses I assume they need the equipment to turn over the ruins. Also, some troops, or militia, were moved in, likely to guard various sites, since there are so many murder scenes there simply aren't enough police. I saw an interview with a woman on CBC. She and her husband went out on their morning walk on Sunday. They normally walk along a road, but the husband suggested they take a path into the woods to the river instead. A few minutes later they heard what they thought were shots. Turns out their neighbour was also out on her morning walk and was gunned down on the road. They didn't know about the murderous rampage going on until they got home and another neighbour called to tell them the news. They, and a lot of other people, wonder why the heck the province did not send out an emergency alert once the first people were shot. Nova Scotia, like Ontario, used the emergency alert system to warn about Covid-19, which I thought was overkill, but I guess some people don't pay attentiuon to the news. You'd think the fact a gunman was out and about was worth a similar warning. 22 this morning. I just don't have the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: Update April 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 BC 27 44 14 43 29 52 25 AB 138 126 162 239 165 241 105 187 ON 483 494 514 564 485 568 606 551 PQ 691 612 997 941 723 836 962 807 The rest 44 42 40 34 54 28 50 21 1383 1318 1727 1821 1456 1673 1775 1591 BC is still in great shape. That Monday number is Saturday and Sunday combined. I saw an interview with the leader of the union for the workers in the Alberta Cargill plant. He was pretty scathing about the company. Ontario continues to ramp up testing, Among other institutions, a Brampton jail had 60 inmates test positive, plus staff. Otherwise the province says community cases (versus institutions like nursing homes) have been steadily dropping. I'm sure Ontario's numbers would be just as high as Quebec's if we included people who call in to a health line or their doctor, describe their symptoms and get told they may have Covid-19 and they should quarantine themselves. The Rest number is low because Nova Scotia seems to alternate low and high numbers, today it was only 16. The smaller provinces have either 0 new cases, 1 for Manitoba and 4 for Saskatchewan. Dare I hope, Toronto seems to have plateaued. Here's a link to Toronto's page, now let's see a drop this week. https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-latest-city-of-toronto-news/covid-19-status-of-cases-in-toronto/ I’d expect ON’s numbers to plateau for the next two weeks rather than fall, on account of the expanded testing. That doesn’t mean cases aren’t actually falling in reality. Canada seems to be out of the growth period for this first wave. All eyes on Europe over the next four to six weeks to see how the slight relaxing of policy goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyria Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, maarsen said: 22 this morning. I just don't have the words. I know I said it before, but it's just so surreal. I didn't know any of the victims, but one of my friends lost a friend since childhood I hope investigators can find something in his home or business in Dartmouth. They weren't torched like his other properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tyria said: I know I said it before, but it's just so surreal. I didn't know any of the victims, but one of my friends lost a friend since childhood I hope investigators can find something in his home or business in Dartmouth. They weren't torched like his other properties. I thought he torched his house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyria Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: I thought he torched his house? I think he only torched the one in the rural area. He had another house in Dartmouth where his business was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Paxter said: I’d expect ON’s numbers to plateau for the next two weeks rather than fall, on account of the expanded testing. That doesn’t mean cases aren’t actually falling in reality. Canada seems to be out of the growth period for this first wave. All eyes on Europe over the next four to six weeks to see how the slight relaxing of policy goes. Ontario reported 510 cases this morning, from 10,361 tests of mainly high risk individuals (nursing homes and other institutions, first responders, medical personnel, people with symptoms). Last week when the numbers were in the 300s, they were only doing 4-5,000 tests. So there are glimmers. Let's see a week's worth of numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Update April 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 BC 44 14 43 29 52 25 71 AB 126 162 239 165 241 105 187 306 ON 494 514 564 485 568 606 551 510 PQ 612 997 941 723 836 962 807 839 The rest 42 40 34 54 28 50 21 43 1318 1727 1821 1456 1673 1775 1591 1769 Holy smokes, Alberta. The news about the meat packing plant has been out for days, this can't be them, can it? Perhaps people exposed to the employess? And BC? Nova Scotia had an up day after a down day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 There's been anti lockdown protests in Vancouver, I don't think they started far back enough for this to be from that, but I expect we'll be seeing a spike soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 BC has been a laggard in testing, along with Ontario. I’d expect the spike to be due to a ramp-up. Alberta has the best testing numbers per capita of the more populous provinces, so their new cases data is skewed higher. Not sure about the latest spike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 What do you think of this idea for school kids? If they are back in school in September that will be close to flu season and I'm still concerned about a second wave and third wave of corvid in the winter. https://driving.ca/ford/auto-news/news/ford-is-testing-buzzing-wristbands-to-keep-workers-socially-distanced?utm_source=drivingcontentads&utm_medium=native_ads&utm_campaign=on_network_boosting&utm_content=Drivingflex What I've noticed while shopping is that kids don't really know what keeping 6 ft apart means unless it's marked on the floor at checkout and that's if it been explained them or they notice at all. Two arm lengths for a kid isn't 6 ft. I had a little girl bumping up against me while her mother repeatedly tried to get control. Until I turned around and pointed out the lines on the floor and told her it was a new safety rule and that's where she had to stand until her mother said it was OK. That glued her to the spot. LOL I haven't seen any kids in stores until recently. I almost ran into two young boys running pell-mell up the aisles, no parent in sight. I gave them the stink eye which slowed them down. LOL Kids are going to have to get out of the house into the fresh air soon and burn off some energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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