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Is it known about dragons in the Game of Thrones world?:-

(1) How fast can they fly?: maximum, and cruising speed for long flights.

(2) How far can they fly before they need to rest and land and feed?

(3) How much does flaming drain their flight-energy?

(4) Do the books say anything about absence or presence of front legs? I know that the movies show no front legs and in front they walk on the wrists of their wings, a feature likely taken from real-world pterosaurs.

(In The Hobbit by Tolkien, the book mentions Smaug's foreleg, but the movie shows no front legs.)

 

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1 minute ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Is it known about dragons in the Game of Thrones world?:-

(1) How fast can they fly?: maximum, and cruising speed for long flights.

We don't know, but we have pretty good approximations. For instance, we know the Targaryens could fly their dragons from KL to Dragonstone within a day - Rhaenyra and Daemon did that, for instance, and the Conqueror and Jaehaerys/Alysanne and many other Targaryens, too.

We also know that Jaehaerys and Alysanne took three days on a quick flight to Oldtown, spending the two nights on the way, first at Bitterbridge, the second at Highgarden.

This means that you can comfortably fly the distance KL-Bitterbridge, Bitterbridge-Highgarden, and Highgarden-Oldtown in a day.

I'd not say it is maximal distance you could fly in a day if you really drove yourself and your dragon to exhaustion. For instance, it seems very likely that Queen Rhaena flew Dreamfyre directly from Dragonstone to Storm's End when she heard her mother was dying, making no stop along the way, and that's a much larger distance.

As for the other questions, we only know that dragons eat much. How long they can stay in the air without food, how often they have to rest and sleep is completely unclear at this point.

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Is it stated (in the books or in the movies) about use of dragon-riding for routine undramatic aerial patrolling to detect sea-pirate movements, or (in Essos) to detect nomad raids from semi-desert regions into farmed regions? (In the Eragon movie there was talk of Eragon riding Safira to patrol to detect nomad raiding parties from a desert into farmed land.)

> we only know that dragons eat much

Is it stated how a big a breeding flock of sheep is needed to keep an average-sized adult dragon fed?

 

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4 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Is it stated (in the books or in the movies) about use of dragon-riding for routine undramatic aerial patrolling to detect sea-pirate movements, or (in Essos) to detect nomad raids from semi-desert regions into farmed regions? (In the Eragon movie there was talk of Eragon riding Safira to patrol to detect nomad raiding parties from a desert into farmed land.)

> we only know that dragons eat much

Is it stated how a big a breeding flock of sheep is needed to keep an average-sized adult dragon fed?

 

I'm sure the Valyrians used dragons for just about anything and everything. Once they became limited in number they were probably considered too precious to expose to danger without prospect of worthwhile reward.

We know one sheep per day got Nettles and Sheepstealer together. Although IDK if that is enough to feed every dragon - depends on size etc. I would think.

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> Once they became limited in number they were probably considered too precious to expose to danger without prospect of worthwhile reward.

That is why I regret the loss of life of men and dragons caused by the civil war called the Dance of the Dragons, a dispute which could have been settled by some other means.

https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Dance_of_the_Dragons

 

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7 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Is it stated (in the books or in the movies) about use of dragon-riding for routine undramatic aerial patrolling to detect sea-pirate movements, or (in Essos) to detect nomad raids from semi-desert regions into farmed regions? (In the Eragon movie there was talk of Eragon riding Safira to patrol to detect nomad raiding parties from a desert into farmed land.)

> we only know that dragons eat much

Is it stated how a big a breeding flock of sheep is needed to keep an average-sized adult dragon fed?

 

Not sure about routine patrol, but it was practice to have at least 1 Targaryen dragonlord and a dragon ready to protect Kings Landing at all times. (Apart from Aemond one eye's blunder during the Dance)

 

Daemon Targaryen seems to have used Caraxes against pirates in his short lived "kingdom" in the narrow sea. 

Their close kin the Velaryons had a strong navy at hand to deal with piracy.  

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Is it stated (in the books or in the movies) about use of dragon-riding for routine undramatic aerial patrolling to detect sea-pirate movements, or (in Essos) to detect nomad raids from semi-desert regions into farmed regions? (In the Eragon movie there was talk of Eragon riding Safira to patrol to detect nomad raiding parties from a desert into farmed land.)

Not really. 

7 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

> we only know that dragons eat much

Is it stated how a big a breeding flock of sheep is needed to keep an average-sized adult dragon fed?

No, but we do know that Dragonstone and the surrounding areas - Driftmark, Claw Isle, Massey's Hook, Crackclaw Point, etc. - could support at least three wild dragons in addition to the domesticated dragons, with or without riders. We know that Grey Ghost fed mostly on fish and other sea food, Sheepstealer focused on sheep, and the Cannibal on other dragons (although that could scarcely have been his only diet, considering dragons were not that common).

We know that the royal dragons were usually fed by the dragonkeepers, although we don't know whether they were fed daily (as Sheepstealer was apparently by Nettles).

One assumes that beasts like Vhagar and Balerion needed enormous amounts of meat, but we never get logistics or statistics on that stuff. That is rather interesting in light of the fact that Vhagar and Balerion retired to Dragonstone after the death of Visenya and Maegor, meaning that these two great beasts - in addition to the younger dragons that hatched and nested - could be fed properly by the Targaryen administration there.

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Likely another routine use of ridden dragons was to move messages and important people quickly long distances over the heads of gangs who may interfere with traffic on the ground or on the sea.

It is recorded that a dragon-rider was killed by falling far when her dragon was killed in the air. That may show that nobody in that area of that world had invented a parachute or similar.

(As regards modern re-uses of the word "dragon", the Icelandic word for "army tank" is "skriðdreki", which literally means "crawling dragon".)

 

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On 3/7/2019 at 2:49 PM, Anthony Appleyard said:

(4) Do the books say anything about absence or presence of front legs? I know that the movies show no front legs and in front they walk on the wrists of their wings, a feature likely taken from real-world pterosaurs.

Martin confirmed in that the Targaryen dragons had only two legs.

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