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Just now, Soylent Brown said:

Not everyone is in the country is as racist as you, buddy. Don't kid yourself.

I’d ask that you don’t throw around accusations of racism. Not only is it poor form but it makes you look bad. So stop it.

Brexit party appears to be doing rather well so far. I’m sure you view Brexit as racist as well,  but that would sum up your level of thinking 

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Some of the motivations for Brexit absolutely are racist, and one of the figureheads (amongst others) of the new party is unabashedly racist, but that clearly doesn't deter you at all - how else should I read into that?

You're not racist, you're just a big fan of a bunch of other racists?

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Just now, Soylent Brown said:

Some of the motivations for Brexit absolutely are racist, and one of the figureheads (amongst others) of the new party is unabashedly racist, but that clearly doesn't deter you at all - how else should I read into that?

You're not racist, you're just a big fan of a bunch of other racists?

I support Brexit because I object to the ongoing transfer of powers to EU institutions, not because I want to usher in the Fourth Reich.

That's a fairly common position among the voters as a whole.

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1 minute ago, Soylent Brown said:

Some of the motivations for Brexit absolutely are racist, and one of the figureheads (amongst others) of the new party is unabashedly racist, but that clearly doesn't deter you at all - how else should I read into that?

You're not racist, you're just a big fan of a bunch of other racists?

No point going round this roundabout again but being opposed to large scale immigration doesn’t make someone a racist, and the more you try and pass off that opposition as racist the more likely you are going to be to end up with someone as unpleasant as Farage in charge of things.

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6 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

You voting for Farage is much more likely to lead to him coming into power than me disliking him and everything he stands for.

What bizarre logic.

I haven’t voted for anybody yet.

But if you are wondering why Brexit party are doing so well in the polls then you might want to consider that it isn’t because everyone except you is a racist.

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37 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

You voting for Farage is much more likely to lead to him coming into power than me disliking him and everything he stands for.

What bizarre logic.

While I share your opinions, one vote is one vote. Behaviours that have the potential to alienate a significant number of voters are potentially worse. 

 

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Posted (edited)

Keep in mind, those are a sample of 22 statements.

So do not despair if you still have a Tory rating of almost 50%, they are not just all around horrible, it means they hold some sensible positions. (I know our chaircat will take offense at that sentence, so replace the Tories with any other party you don't want to vote for).

Personally I'd be more worried if I scored highly with Arlene's Christian Order of the Homophobic Knights. But that might just be me, who would start to reexamine some life choices, or answers on that test.  However, you still might feel there are deal breakers for you with certain parties; like the racism in UKIP or the Brexit party, or the homophobic Christian fundamentalism in the DUP.

 

Edited by A Horse Named Stranger

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Brexit, UKIP, DUP, Tory bottom 4.

Lib Democrat and Labour way out in front. 

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Voting intention shows that The Brexit Party is leading and is doing really rather well. The Tories have to be seriously worried about this, and its interesting to see some of the stories coming out recently, with Jeremy Hunt saying they should 'embrace no deal'. 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1120883/European-elections-polls-latest-tories-brexit-party-news-nigel-farage-eu-election

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The Brexit party are doing well because the Remain vote is split between the proper parties; people voting how they ordinarily would.

In reality, a vote for them is a vote to install a bunch of people who will be as obnoxious and obstructive as possible during their official duties.

I really don't see any positives to be gained from further souring international relationships, whatever your preference on Brexit. The European elections are not another referendum.

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3 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

The Brexit party are doing well because the Remain vote is split between the proper parties; people voting how they ordinarily would.

In reality, a vote for them is a vote to install a bunch of people who will be as obnoxious and obstructive as possible during their official duties.

I really don't see any positives to be gained from further souring international relationships, whatever your preference on Brexit. The European elections are not another referendum.

They will, however, be treated as such.

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So, conscious that splitting the vote is still a thing in this form of PR, do you think I’m better off voting Lib Dem or Change? This is a single issue for me, as other policies will not matter if we leave anyway, so I want to vote for the party with the best chance of success. The Independent Group made headlines this year, but is Change more recognised and more likely to get votes than the Lib Dems? I haven’t seen much polling information that hasn’t come from the Express as linked above.

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6 minutes ago, Stannis Eats No Peaches said:

So, conscious that splitting the vote is still a thing in this form of PR, do you think I’m better off voting Lib Dem or Change? This is a single issue for me, as other policies will not matter if we leave anyway, so I want to vote for the party with the best chance of success. The Independent Group made headlines this year, but is Change more recognised and more likely to get votes than the Lib Dems? I haven’t seen much polling information that hasn’t come from the Express as linked above.

It depends which region you live in.  The smaller the region, the higher the threshold to get elected, and the greater the risk of splitting the vote.

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36 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

The Brexit party are doing well because the Remain vote is split between the proper parties; people voting how they ordinarily would.

The Brexit Vote is also split amongst a number of parties, seeing that both the Tories and Labour should essentially be seen as Brexit parties (if you go by their promises rather than actions) and we can of course ignore UKIP for now.

 

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For someone who likes to think of himself as a character from House of Cards, Williamson ends up sacked after an investigation into a shambolic leaking - a plot straight out of The Thick of It.

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2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

Williamson was the leak. Snidey cunt. 

He's a right little git. What are the chances of a police prosecution, do you think? 

Edited by Spockydog

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