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Health groups backed dark money campaign to sink 'surprise' billing fix

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/health-groups-dark-money-hospital-bills-legislation-1495697

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A group calling itself Doctor Patient Unity has spent nearly $30 million on a campaign designed to kill the leading congressional legislation that would make it harder for hospitals and doctors to spring massive, unexpected bills on patients.

Its funding source has been secret thanks to the rules surrounding this “dark money” group, but multiple sources tell POLITICO that doctor staffing firms Envision Healthcare and TeamHealth are significant sponsors — showing just how powerful corporate medicine has become in trying to derail changes to a system that has put thousands of Americans in debt.

The group emerged shortly before Congress' August recess and began running $28.6 million in ads targeting prominent lawmakers, according to Advertising Analytics, an independent tracking firm. The goal was to stop legislation that would hold insured patients harmless for sometimes staggering bills for out-of-network care by setting federal rates to resolve billing disputes. Both the Senate health and House Energy and Commerce committees have passed versions of this policy.

The two health staffing companies have both previously been accused of shifting the cost of uncompensated care in billing disputes to patients. Both say that's no longer the case and that they support a federal solution to surprise billings. But they don't like the congressional panels' approach, which they call government "rate-setting." Their involvement was first reported by the New York Times.

 

 

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When you wrote about this last winter you suggested that there were four powerful checks on this possibility: the Electoral College, Congress, state governors, and the Defense Department. I wonder if you are more or less sanguine about each of them, seven months later?

I’m an optimistic guy, but I have to be less sanguine—because, seven months later, I haven’t seen any of these checks taking seriously this concern. In fairness, some need prompting to do so. For example, it’s the political parties that should require their electors for the Electoral College to pledge that they won’t withhold, delay, or alter their votes based on the claims or protestations of any candidate, including Trump himself. But I don’t see the parties requiring that, or even discussing whether to require it. And others—such as Congress or state governors—don’t need prompting at all to make the sort of commitments I urged back in February. Yet they don’t seem to be making those commitments. And remember: This is about ensuring that valid election results are respected, whichever way that cuts. That shouldn’t be controversial.

 

What Happens if Trump Won’t Step Down?
National security expert Josh Geltzer on why we should be prepared for the worst.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/joshua-geltzer-election-peaceful-transition-of-power-donald-trump.html

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"Whistleblower complaint found to be both 'urgent' and 'credible'—but the White House is hiding it ..."

What can it be?  Has this cretinous traitor provided enormously sensitive National Security information to Putin, the Saudis, ?????

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/14/1885451/-Whistleblower-complaint-found-to-be-both-urgent-and-credible-but-the-White-House-is-hiding-it

 

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House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff has issued a press release and a subpoena to the acting Director of National Intelligence over a subject that looks deeply concerning. A month ago, someone inside the U.S. intelligence community filed a whistleblower complaint alleging a “flagrant problem” or “violation of the law.” That complaint appears to have been aimed directly at actions by acting DNI Joseph Maguire. Since that filing, the Inspector General for the intelligence community has looked into the matter and found that it’s not only “credible,” but an “urgent concern.”

A month later, this urgent concern about a flagrant violation is still being hidden by Maguire. The clock ran out for Maguire to release this whistleblower report on Sept. 3. But he did not release it. In fact, he didn’t even let Congress know that there was such a report.

As Schiff notes, even if the original report didn’t allege a violation of the law, the failure to release the report absolutely is a violation of the law. This instance is both extremely serious and utterly unprecedented.

“A Director of National Intelligence has never prevented a properly submitted whistleblower complaint that the IC IG determined to be credible and urgent from being provided to the congressional intelligence committees. Never. This raises serious concerns about whether White House, Department of Justice or other executive branch officials are trying to prevent a legitimate whistleblower complaint from reaching its intended recipient, the Congress, in order to cover up serious misconduct.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Bonnot OG said:

Yang seriously sucks. Sucks so bad. No wonder why white supremacist love him.

 

How about a little context with his statement, hmm?

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Awwww! Much less heartwarming, however, was the news that one of NBC’s other new hires, comedian Shane Gillis, had a history of using anti-Asian racial slurs. And least heartwarming of all, from Andrew Yang’s perspective, was the news that Gillis had specifically referred to Andrew Yang, personally, as a “Jew chink” in a May 2019 podcast episode. Yang wasn’t impressed by the non-apology Gillis offered on Twitter, and said so, tweeting at Gillis that he was willing to “sit down and talk,” perhaps in response to Gillis’ offer to “apologize to anyone who’s actually offended by anything I’ve said.”

So Yang had been personally targeted by this guy, and instead of retaliating in kind, asked to sit down and have a conversation with him, and because of that, he "sucks so bad" in your eyes.  Yes, he said that he didn't think Gillis should be fired, but given that he'd actually been targeted by Gillis, I think that means I don't get to criticize his opinion, even if I disagree with it (I think SNL did a shitty job vetting him and his apology was crap, so he hasn't learned any lessons and should be fired).

You say it makes him suck so bad. I say that it shows maturity, composure, courage, empathy and strength. Those are qualities I'm actually looking for in a President. 

Make no mistake, you'll never be able to hate racists out of existence. Dialogue, patience, and the realization that most of the time their racism results from learned behavior taught to them at an early age is our best shot at making that happen. Learned behavior can be unlearned, or at least can be managed.

And before you even say it, yes, it's absolutely, completely unfair that minorities hurt by racist words or actions must also be the most effective weapons against the beliefs out of which that racism is nurtured. It could potentially re-traumatize them. As an ally, I do my best to re-educate people using racially charged language or stereotypes, but I can't show them that minorities have more commonalities with that bigoted person than differences. Only someone who's been targeted by that racism has a shot at doing that. And it sucks and it's unfair, but that's the world we live in.

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JURISPRUDENCE -- "What Happens if Trump Won’t Step Down?"
National security expert Josh Geltzer on why we should be prepared for the worst.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/joshua-geltzer-election-peaceful-transition-of-power-donald-trump.html

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[JG] But here’s the problem: Reluctance means not doing what we can now to address this concern. And I do think there are important checks on Trump’s ability to contest valid election results—but some need activating right away, if they’re going to have maximum impact.

[DL]When you wrote about this last winter you suggested that there were four powerful checks on this possibility: the Electoral College, Congress, state governors, and the Defense Department. I wonder if you are more or less sanguine about each of them, seven months later?

[JK]I’m an optimistic guy, but I have to be less sanguine—because, seven months later, I haven’t seen any of these checks taking seriously this concern. In fairness, some need prompting to do so. For example, it’s the political parties that should require their electors for the Electoral College to pledge that they won’t withhold, delay, or alter their votes based on the claims or protestations of any candidate, including Trump himself. But I don’t see the parties requiring that, or even discussing whether to require it. And others—such as Congress or state governors—don’t need prompting at all to make the sort of commitments I urged back in February. Yet they don’t seem to be making those commitments. And remember: This is about ensuring that valid election results are respected, whichever way that cuts. That shouldn’t be controversial.


 

Today's Doonsbury strip treats the same question, what to do if he doesn't accept losing the election:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/doonesbury/
 

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1 hour ago, Bonnot OG said:

Not suspicious at all. Wonder who the ones that were accepted were from.

Amazingly, this is probably not all De Vos' fault, and I say that as someone who dislikes her more than Bonnot OG hates the world.

The issue is largely with all of the rules of what makes a person quality.  Most of these applicants probably do not quality.  That was written into the program back in 2007 as far as I know.  

But where BDV sucks is that they also appear to be running with this and loving that they can deny forgiveness for any which reason.

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2 minutes ago, Triskele said:

Amazingly, this is probably not all De Vos' fault, and I say that as someone who dislikes her more than Bonnot OG hates the world.

The issue is largely with all of the rules of what makes a person quality.  Most of these applicants probably do not quality.  That was written into the program back in 2007 as far as I know.  

But where BDV sucks is that they also appear to be running with this and loving that they can deny forgiveness for any which reason.

They are absolutely stonewalling on applications for forgiveness for students cheated by For-Profit colleges though. Even after that court ruling against them.

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42 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

They are absolutely stonewalling on applications for forgiveness for students cheated by For-Profit colleges though. Even after that court ruling against them.

Of course, but just for the record that is a separate issue from the public service loan forgiveness issue.  

It's remarkable to me how she hired tons of security as her first action as Ed. secretary.  

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On 9/14/2019 at 8:37 AM, Bonnot OG said:

 

The 118-year-old synagogue in Duluth ---

For conversation and enlightenment I was wondering why you think people are antisemitic?

It does not make sense to me. What grave wrong have Jewish people done?

It is a sad thing that the synagogue was burnt. Why do people hate those of the Jewish faith? Doesn't make sense. They were the first to face discrimination.

I would really appreciate it, Bonnot, if you replied with your own thoughts rather than retweeting some tweet.

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The Education Department has rejected 53,339 of the 54,000 applications for its loan forgiveness program.

The above is a partial quote by @Bonnot OG .

Let us bring it down to personal activity. Did your parents have a tuition plan? Are you one of the young adults who frekked round for two or more semesters.

Yes, there are individuals who attend class and meet requirements. Shyte, wtf do I know, parents can't get access to their child's academic records and the internet makes it possible to not actually be in class.

Old school. I worked at a community college. Benefit package was my child could attend tuition free, except for books and lab, if my child maintained a C average. I ended up paying for two semesters of lunch plus the book and lab fee.

That is the problem with free tuition. Sounds good. Yeah, some individuals are going to hunker down and study and pass their classes. Other individuals however are gonna mess a round cause it is free.

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I think the idea that Trump will create a dictatorship in America is absurd. Trump is rightly criticized everyday for not understanding the nuts and bolts of governing, messing around ,golfing and not paying attention in meetings. The idea that Trump could pull off a coup is laughable. Creating a dictatorship is hard work and I don't think he could even pretend to have what it takes. Whether he concedes or not the winner of 2020 will be sworn in and that will be that.

 

As our Republican friends love to remind us America is a republic not a pure democracy and the Electoral College chooses the president not the voters. As long as the Electoral College votes for the Democrat. Trump has no real means to contest the election. Sure he could say he will, and will probably tweet LIES RIGGED and who knows what else; but once the electoral college votes are cast, a million little wheels start turning in preparation for the next president and the full wait of the inertia of American institutions bears down, and I doubt Trump has the knowledge or the attention span to stop that. Tweeting angrily about rigged elections and refusing to admit he lost does not a coup make. Roy Moore never conceded in Alabama and yet Doug Jones is a senator not him. 

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8 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said:

OK, I have no idea what you're actually saying there.

 

Golly gee, sorry for the confusion, I was talking to @Bonnot OG.

Then again you weren't actually specifically inviting me into a conversation, were u?

Silly me projecting. :devil:

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