Asarlai Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Let's just have a revolution and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkynJay Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No, he didn't "absolutely know" that. He's biased, and lot a lot of biased people, figured the facts supported him. I'll bet he was pretty shocked to find out how far off he was.Why would someone knowingly make an untrue statement, easily disproved, that makes him her look like an idiot?He is not a liar, he just doesnt give a shit and assumes he is always right, damn the facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Asarlai,How many and who will have to die for your "revolution" to succede? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asarlai Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Asarlai,How many and who will have to die for your "revolution" to succede?Because if history has taught us anything, it's that all successful revolutions are violent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Asarlai,Try to take my land that I have bought an paid for, try to force my children into your ideology, I'm going to fight you. How will you respond to my refusal to paticipate in your new society? With kindness, charity, or force when I continue to speak out against it and rally opposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Saying that the people calling for Weiner's resignation are obsessed with his shaft is a straw man argument. He cheated on his wife and lied about it. Ask Governor Sanford and Rep Mark Foley how they feel about it.I know you libs have....less strict family values when it comes to fidelity in a marriage especially when it comes to your elected representatives. The prevailing thought on the conservative side has always been "If you can lie and cheat on your wife/husband, then you can lie and cheat on the American people." It's an ethics violation.But if Weiner says, "I told Jesus I'm sorry and he told me it was okay," then we can go back to trusting him, because he's now an upstanding and wonderful human being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 But if Weiner says, "I told Jesus I'm sorry and he told me it was okay," then we can go back to trusting him, because he's now an upstanding and wonderful human being?Actually, I'm pretty sure Weiner said that he only sent women pictures of his cock because he loved America so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFlare Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Seriously. I haven't seen the rightwing got so worked up over some penis pictures since the Clinton years.You have hitherto unknown Clinton Cock Pics? If you have them, then the liberal media must have them as well. And therefor the libtard media is hiding them to push the communist United Nations homosexualist evolutionist agenda on our children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFlare Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 It wasn't. It was a nonstory pushed by breitard, peddled here by commodore, given credence by tempra, and then got debunked by a NYTimes article.Bad facts make shitty argument. ;)Umm, he has admitted texting a 17 year old girl. I don't see the Breitbart article referenced by Commodore, but I also don't see any refutations by the NYT by searching for Weiner. It's possible that he was helping out a high school student with her homework, but IIRC he was saying he hadn't had any communication with anyone underage only a few days ago.Face it, the left is having to choke down a mini-scandal right now. I know it sucks that Breitbart got the drop on you, but he'll fuck up something big sooner or later and get his wings clipped.Compared to the GOP's wide stance/hiking on the Appalachian trail/Ensign/Vitter/Foley moral turpitude issues this is probably nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sprunk Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Seriously. I haven't seen the rightwing got so worked up over some penis pictures since the Clinton years.When you've lost the debate on civil rights, economics, and national security, diversions are all you have left.Oh, and slashing taxes for the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Meanwhile, Andrew Sullivan continues to perpetuate the theory that Trig is not Sarah Palin's child. How does this man still have a job?Same reason Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, both floggers of birther theories, are still working for Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 With kindness, charity, or force when I continue to speak out against it and rally opposition?Mind control chips. Non-leathal, non-violent, very effective. It is small, almost non-invasive, side effects are minor but might include itchy eyes, dry mouth, and some sexual dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 14D,:stunned: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Lord of Winterfell Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No, it's exactly what you are saying.No, Shryke, it's not. I said what I said, not what you wished I had said, nor what inferences you have drawn from what I said. But to refresh your recollection, here's what I said:No, he didn't "absolutely know" that. He's biased, and lot a lot of biased people, figured the facts supported him. I'll bet he was pretty shocked to find out how far off he was. Why would someone knowingly make an untrue statement, easily disproved, that makes him her look like an idiot?If you want to know "exactly" what I'm saying, read it for yourself. It's why I chose those particular words, and that particular arrangement of those words. To write two completely different sentences and then say that's "exactly" what I'm saying is ridiculous.Either Kyl was lying out his ass or he was supporting a position based on information he didn't know and, in fact, hadn't even the slightest incling of.Which one was it?Neither, though this isn't the issue I was addressing. There are alternatives out there other than the false dichotomy you presented. Maybe you'll think of them for yourself if you try hard enough. C'mon Shryke, I know you can do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Personally I would consider saying something like it is fact without checking its validity to be lying.Again this could just be different standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Lord of Winterfell Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I like how all these stories distract people from the state of the country and the world.The political party that benefits most from distracting people from the current state of the world and economy is Weiner's own party, and in particular, the President. He always draws the most heat when the economy is in the shitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 C'mon Shryke, I know you can do it!!!Yeah, c'mon Shryke! It's like FLoW says, if you're a Democrat defending Weiner, it means you're either a partisan hack or a pervert who loves Weiner's weiner. Just like if you're a Republican who tells blatant lies, it means you were just honestly mistaken. Doncha know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No, Shryke, it's not. I said what I said, not what you wished I had said, nor what inferences you have drawn from what I said. But to refresh your recollection, here's what I said:If you want to know "exactly" what I'm saying, read it for yourself. It's why I chose those particular words, and that particular arrangement of those words. To write two completely different sentences and then say that's "exactly" what I'm saying is ridiculous.Neither, though this isn't the issue I was addressing. There are alternatives out there other than the false dichotomy you presented. Maybe you'll think of them for yourself if you try hard enough. C'mon Shryke, I know you can do it!!!What are they then?I mean, I know you wish that wasn't what you were saying, but there are no other alternatives.Either he knew it wasn't 90%, in which case he was lying. Or he didn't know it wasn't 90%, in which case he was supporting legislation and giving a speech on why it was a good idea without even having the slightest clue what Planned Parenthood actually did.And if you think there are other options, state them.I mean, I know what you actually wanted to say was some vague bullshit to try and weasel out of your position because it's logically untenable, but let's pretend you actually mean what you say for a second and it makes sense.He was supporting defunding Planned Parenthood based on, according to his speech, the fact that 90% (or something in that range, since exageration or rounding is valid) of what they do was abortions. This isn't even anywhere close to true. He said something completely, 100% false.So either he knew it was false (he's a liar) or he didn't (and he's an idiot supporting an agenda based on information that's completely false). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfish Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 But if Weiner says, "I told Jesus I'm sorry and he told me it was okay," then we can go back to trusting him, because he's now an upstanding and wonderful human being?I'm not sure.Maybe you should ask Pelosi if that would be an acceptable penance, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm not sure.Maybe you should ask Pelosi if that would be an acceptable penance, yes?Why the suffering fuck do our conservative hacks now give a flying fuck about Nancy Pelosi's opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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