Dove Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Dany the Conqueror is the best Dany by far. Let's just focus on how amazing this season is going to be and... not think about Meereen. (but I do think they've learned from their S2 writing and they'll be able to spruce up Meereen)Missandei seems promising as a sidekick, too. It's a shame Irri and Jhiqui not being around means omitting one of the best exchanges in Dany's story:"It is known.""It is not known!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I'm the only one that likes Kit, aren't I? :P (And not just because he's lovely to look at)I like Kit as Jon just fine. I think he get criticized unfairly. To me he is pretty close to book Jon. People that expected some charismatic type character on the show are fooling themselves, that is not how book Jon is written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It goes way beyond that. But it's not all Harington's fault, the writers have butchered that part of the story.Hoping for a turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Desmond Wine's Bane Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It's a shame Irri and Jhiqui not being around means omitting one of the best exchanges in Dany's story:"It is known.""It is not known!"Agreed.Sob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victim Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I like Kit as Jon just fine. I think he get criticized unfairly. To me he is pretty close to book Jon. People that expected some charismatic type character on the show are fooling themselves, that is not how book Jon is written.I also think Kit's very good and unfairly criticized. My brother, who hasn't read the books, thinks Jon's the best character, and my non-book reader friends like him quite a bit too,The thing is, Jon's an extremely internal character. He's not a charismatic man by any means, nor should he be, but reading his inner-commentary on events is truly fascinating, which makes him a better character than he seems to be in the show. He doesn't have nearly enough screentime because of their choice in location* and his true character doesn't really come across. It's nothing against Kit because I feel like Jon is a very slow-building character who doesn't really come into his own until ADwD anyway - if that gets pulled off, it'll all be fine.*I explained why I think filming in Iceland is detrimental in this thread: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/85021-book-spoilers-farewell-mance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkie Baelish Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Am I the only one that thinks Kit Harington sounds out of breath everytime he delivers a line? Maybe that's just his actual voice, but he sounds like he just ran a marathon. "Ahm Ned Stahk's bahsterd!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 *she whispers under breath* COME ON KIT, SHOW THEMPLEASE GET BETTER, PLEAAASEI thought Kit had gotten better. His lines in the tent with Mance Rayder were well delivered imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 They've reduced Tyrion to some sort of comedy relief in King's Landing, yucking it up with Bronn over irrelevant matters.Not quite. While the scene with Pod may have been goofy, we were also introduced to the iron Bank of Braavos, which will have huge relevance later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Jon/kit's problem isnt lack of charisma. That's mance/tormund. His problems start at 1) way too needy 2) indecisive 3) consistently disrespected 4) no ghost. For starters. Some of this is problems with the writing, some is problems with the actor. Kit said himself that Book Jon was stupid and had no foresight, those are qualities he tries to bring out in his portrayal. Jon is not stupid and does consider ramifications of his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I like Kit as Jon just fine. I think he get criticized unfairly. To me he is pretty close to book Jon. People that expected some charismatic type character on the show are fooling themselves, that is not how book Jon is written.I thought Kit had gotten better. His lines in the tent with Mance Rayder were well delivered imo I agree :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegarsjoy Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I thought this was about Dany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 I thought this was about DanyIt became a bit of a free-for-all. Last season, despite all her proclamations, she seemed falsely confident. This season it seems more real. Im really hoping they keep the crucified slaves and slavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadco26 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Well Jon's season 2 story line was the second most butchered behind Dany's in season 2. Dany has been much better this season. Jon has improved as well, though part of that is just giving him minimal dialogue. I don't really blame the actor though, the story line was a pretty poor adaptation that makes him look like a bumbling idiot who lucks into the right situations rather than a hero who will become commander of the Nights Watch. Likewise there wasn't much any actress could do with dialogue from season 2 that included Dany asking to be let into Qarth so her people won't starve, and THEN threatening to come back after her dragons had grown and burn the city to the ground when she was refused entry. Good luck doing that after starving to death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Well Jon's season 2 story line was the second most butchered behind Dany's in season 2. Dany has been much better this season. Jon has improved as well, though part of that is just giving him minimal dialogue. I don't really blame the actor though, the story line was a pretty poor adaptation that makes him look like a bumbling idiot who lucks into the right situations rather than a hero who will become commander of the Nights Watch. Likewise there wasn't much any actress could do with dialogue from season 2 that included Dany asking to be let into Qarth so her people won't starve, and THEN threatening to come back after her dragons had grown and burn the city to the ground when she was refused entry. Good luck doing that after starving to death..."Who stole the 3 most valuable items in the world from me?!?!?!??!!""I did, let me give you my address to come pick them up, twas just for shits and giggles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Likewise there wasn't much any actress could do with dialogue from season 2 that included Dany asking to be let into Qarth so her people won't starve, and THEN threatening to come back after her dragons had grown and burn the city to the ground when she was refused entry. Good luck doing that after starving to death...To be fair, the Spice King did point out the stupidity of that statement. Dany was also pretty desperate at that point.That was some of the better dialog during her season 2 storyline. The endless "I had nothing, truly, nothing" and "I will not marry you" discussions were much worse.They seem to be avoiding that sort of thing this season. The Jorah-Barristan-Dany dialog last episode was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadco26 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Really Dany isn't so stupid that anyone should have to point it out to her. That being some of the better dialogue just shows how bad the writing was for her in season 2 and it would be tough for any actress to do much with those types of lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Really Dany isn't so stupid that anyone should have to point it out to her. That being some of the better dialogue just shows how bad the writing was for her in season 2 and it would be tough for any actress to do much with those types of lines.Dave and Dan had their hands full S2 with cramming CoK into ten hours, I guess they just gave up on the Dany chapters, it sure seemed their attention was elsewhere....setting up Blackwater must have been a chore. It's almost as if they instructed the filming crew to do only a minimal number of takes , because even some of the bad dialog could have been delivered better in more takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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