go joff go Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 By the way have we ruled out the old bear coming back as a wight at some point?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I wonder what plans the show has for Burn Gorman's character? You don't hire an actor of his calibre just to kill him off after a couple of episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 You don't have Rast staying alive and yelling threateningly at Sam as he runs away without him reappearing later in the season (probably "wight"ed) to try and take Sam down for good. I call him being shut down by Coldhands. This is of course after Sam takes down Puddles the Other with the Dragonglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyRoastBeef Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I hated Mormont getting killed by Craster getting shanked was kind of hilarious. Both in the show and books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I wonder what plans the show has for Burn Gorman's character? You don't hire an actor of his calibre just to kill him off after a couple of episodes.It'd be really cool if he stuck around, maybe to be an antagonist to Jon later, but I could see him just being one of the mutineers killed by Coldhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammothsbane Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Fucking Rast.... :(Been dreading that scene all season.. no last words were disheartening, but I enjoyed the scene overall. Honestly, I can see them getting rid of the "Sam the Slayer" thing. I don't think it's that important to the overall story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_z Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Fucking Rast.... :(Been dreading that scene all season.. no last words were disheartening, but I enjoyed the scene overall. Honestly, I can see them getting rid of the "Sam the Slayer" thing. I don't think it's that important to the overall story.WHAT?! Yes it was! It's the first time the NW and later Stannis learns how to kill the white walkers. "Sam the Slayer," is pretty integral to the entire storyline concerning the NW, wildling's and the white walkers. Not to mention, it explains why they find dragon glass at the fist of the first men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Yeah they have to do Slayer. I hope at least Grenn and Edd are there somehow for it. I have a feeling the WW will try to grab Gilly's baby for whatever purpose they take baby sacrifices and Sam gets some random courage from trying to rescue Gilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Or there was simply no one to stop them from butchering each other anymore.Their cause was the same. Why would they butcher each other if all they wanted to was to get some food (okay, some also wanted Craster's women). It was obvious that when Mormont died the most loyal to the NW attacked suddenly, especially since there were still a few veterans there. They sure as hell wouldn't support the killing of Mormont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It'd be really cool if he stuck around, maybe to be an antagonist to Jon later, but I could see him just being one of the mutineers killed by Coldhands.I read somewhere he was going to PLAY coldhands, but I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I read somewhere he was going to PLAY coldhands, but I dunno...That theory was quickly refuted. The individual who proposed it must've found Gorman's character's name (which is named "Night's Watchman") and presumed it meant Coldhands. But since we already saw his role, I guess he may lead the rebels and no more than that. Since Coldhands first appears only in what..episode 7-8? It is likely that Gorman may still make a few appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That theory was quickly refuted. The individual who proposed it must've found Gorman's character's name (which is named "Night's Watchman") and presumed it meant Coldhands. But since we already saw his role, I guess he may lead the rebels and no more than that. Since Coldhands first appears only in what..episode 7-8? It is likely that Gorman may still make a few appearances.OH, okay! this makes sense. I'm glad. I was really confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Regent Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Just rewatched it. Edd wasn't killed, he killed the man who grabbed him. I had to pause to make that clear. Dolorous Edd is very much alive thank R'hllor. :bowdown: thank you for going back and looking for that! And I do hope that Sam kills and Other soon. That's how he gained the respect from the rest of the NW brothers, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 :bowdown: thank you for going back and looking for that!And I do hope that Sam kills and Other soon. That's how he gained the respect from the rest of the NW brothers, right?I don't know how true that is. Grenn was the only guy who saw it and the rest of the NW men who heard about it pretty much all got slaughtered at Craster's. I don't think it's that necessary really. Gilly will at least be there to see it which is going to be the thing that gives him more confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 If Dolorous Edd had died it would've been so much worse than Ned. :bawl:I'm guessing that Sam the Slayer is going to happen when he's defending Gilly.Unless they switch it up and have someone be with the two of them, like Grenn or something, it means that his story won't be particularly believable. Then again, even the last time I read the book I wasn't quite sure if the "Slayer" nickname was intended to be mocking by most of the brothers or if Sam just saw it that way because he's insecure as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Don't you mean... Samwell the Murderer?Poor Puddles, never stood a chance against the very large (as in sideways) human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazibouncer Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 It looked like Edd stabbed the man behind him. R.I.P. Jeor Mormont. I was upset that him and Sam didn't have their moment together, but when he grabbed Rast and slammed him against the wall and started chocking him was BADASS. I was just pissed that he collapsed before he was able to finish him off. I also loved the guy who killed Craster, you could tell what was going on through his head before he called him bastard, "Fuck, what am I doing...*prepares* ok let's do this" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkie Baelish Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I think Burn Gorman's character will become a wight, like Rast, and attack Sam before Coldhands arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versiroth Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 So since the Old Bear didn't get to be held by Sam the slayer for a long time while he died and didn't impart on him his dying wish of having his son Jorah join the Nights Watch.Does that mean(confirm) Sam will never get to tell Jorah and he'll never join the NW?I don't believe that he ever will in the books either. Do you honestly think he'll ever truly leave Danny? I think that part in the book was only to show that Mormont was thinking about his son at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis the Wight Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I keep re-watching this scene. Everything about it is so perfect.Craster: I am a Godly Man!Rast: You're a stingy bastard!Everything that Burn Gorman did was on point. Awesome actor I hope he sticks around, if anything I would say Rast/Craster/Mormont will come back as a wightThe guy who played Craster was perfect too, I loved how there was some audible pig snorting sounds during the scene when Craster was talking to Jeor, emphasizes his "wildlingness" even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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