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Analyzing the analyses: Categorical investigation of demographics


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Littlefinger Fans-Seem to have a strange fascination with ladders,They generally are very insightful in terms of the books and from the little I've seen out side of the General forums seem to be concerned citizens of where ever they are from.

Conversely

Varys Fans-There aren't as many of these as there were when I first joined the forums,They are(Were would be more appropriate) very subtle people and they had a certain affinity to the politically oriented threads and Started threads which included Varys is a Blackfyre which caught on for a while a few months ago.

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Dany fans emphasize prerogative, such as Dany's claim to the Iron Throne. Like Dany they tend to have an elitist view of the world and believe in their moral duty to "free" and "save" "uncivilized" peoples. This manifests itself in a tendency to promote and support military intervention in less developed countries. In everyday life they show a remarkable willingness to "help" others, donating to charities and aid programs. Supporters of Fair Trade, they are concerned with making a difference in the world, often volunteering to build schools in third world countries, though the communities in which they volunteer can be left worse off once they depart.

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I guess I'll do a few more:

widlings: The wildlings (and Mance especially) remind me of classical liberalism somewhat, with a touch of American pioneerism and ruggedness. They kind of invoke a bit of nostalgia for "a simpler time," even though that freedom and "democracy" comes with brutality and problems of its own. Fans of the wildlings (and Mance especially) probably like Steinbeck, driving convertibles through the desert, and watch Breaking Bad.

Jaime: Jaime is the failed hero in all of us, a man whose battle between ID and Superego has rendered him a self- aware tragic fool, an anti hero. Jaime plumbs our own egotism to be beautiful and seemingly perfect, and voices our cynicism about fairy tale endings and the bullshit that comes with attending work functions. Fans of Jaime likely swooned over Heart of Darkness in High School and Kafka in college, watch South Park, and listen to Queen.

Cat: Cat is the pragmatic voice of reason, a woman who knew the best course of action, but was lost in a sea of chaos beyond her control. She evokes admiration for her good sense and empathy for anyone who is not a soulless monster, and is a vehicle for any of us who may have felt powerless at any point in life. Cat fans probably worshipped Mary Poppins, loved Elizabeth, and are probably running Fortune 500 companies.

Sansa: Sansa is the shattered idealist, who, like her mother, was rendered seemingly powerless and suffocated. She evokes stoicism and determination to survive in cruel circumstances, reminding us that even the smallest rebellions can make us unbowed and unbroken. Sansa fans probably love Black Swan (and ballet generally), subscribe to both W magazine and the Economist, and find successful employment in the CIA.

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Renly fans put a great deal of value in appearances, but are constantly in danger of prizing style over substance. Their biggest flaw is often vanity, and they are never accused of being humble. Renly fans can often be found trying on clothes in high-end stores such as Armani, Yves Saint Laurent or Prada, or watching fashion shows and are never found without the most expensive cologne, perfume and/or makeup on the market. Always ambitious and never shy about putting themselves on display, they always put on a good show, but it can often be anticlimactic. They are never seen without an equally trendy or metrosexual wingman. People often suspect that close friends or relatives are the metaphorical powers behind their thrones.

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I do wonder, did Mladen personally report his friends for chatting? Including himself? :P

I'm so confused on whether or not this is serious. So the idea is to stereotype fans of characters or houses?

If we have chatted off-topic I would certainly report anyone, but in these 68 posts, I found nothing that would make me report anyone, myself included. As for my friends, they are well aware how much each and every thread I open means to me, and they respect that. That's why I carefully choose those that are my friends...

As for this being serious or not, it's actually somewhere between. If we become too serious, this thread would turn into battlefield. Therefore, I think that lighthearted tone of the thread is exactly what we need. To discuss about characters, opinions, threads and theories and POVs that made some people write it. Of course, one day, this thread will be transformed into much serious analysis of dempographics, but as for the time being, I think that we should all amuse ourselves with connecting our background and ASOIAF. Even this is very valuable data to all those who will one day do demographic research of the board.

Cat: Cat is the pragmatic voice of reason, a woman who knew the best course of action, but was lost in a sea of chaos beyond her control. She evokes admiration for her good sense and empathy for anyone who is not a soulless monster, and is a vehicle for any of us who may have felt powerless at any point in life. Cat fans probably worshipped Mary Poppins, loved Elizabeth, and are probably running Fortune 500 companies.

Sansa: Sansa is the shattered idealist, who, like her mother, was rendered seemingly powerless and suffocated. She evokes stoicism and determination to survive in cruel circumstances, reminding us that even the smallest rebellions can make us unbowed and unbroken. Sansa fans probably love Black Swan (and ballet generally), subscribe to both W magazine and the Economist, and find successful employment in the CIA.

I always imagined people who like Cat as tradional type, going to church every Sunday, you know type of Christina Braverman mothers (yeap, I watched Parenthood, it became my quilty pleasure :))

As for Sansa, I have to go from myself there :)... So, imagine me and that's your fiercest Sansa fan... I am not subscribed to W, but I think Sansa fans would read Vanity fair...

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I think we can probably tell a lot more about a person by who they anti-fan.

Littlefinger: Our Lord of Harrenhal is the model for ladder-climbing. I mean, he was a lord before and he received a lordly education, but he was pretty much a commoner. He worked his way up from master of rocks to master of a lot of stuff. Plus, he's really good at economics and shit. Those who anti-fan LF are generally very unhappy that they haven't been able to accomplish the same in their own lives. They are fond of immature name-calling (pissant, for example) and trying to convert others to Varysism. Typical careers for LF anti-fans are architect, engineer, vajazzler or computer hacker.

Daenerys: Dany is known for living her entire life in exile and rising above it all. She has an affinity for fire and health. She is the only female character who rules as queen in her own right. Dany's anti-fans are generally greatly jealous with this character's skills. They dislike that she's so in touch with fire and health as well as her many, loud proclamations of being the blood of the dragon. Anti-fans in this group will often involve themselves in guerrilla attacks against Dany's fireproof and healthiness. They like to type in CAPS LOCKS because they believe if they just talk louder than Dany's FIRE AND BLOOD talk, they will win the war. Those who are Dany anti-fans probably work in some industry where their voice can be heard, like journalism or cheerleading.

Darkstar: Darkstar is a rebel. He pees in the sand, says he is of the night, and grooms ears. He also very subtly lets Arianne know that her plan to crown Myrcella is greatly flawed. Anti-fans of Darkstar likely hate rainbows and cupcakes.

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If we have chatted off-topic I would certainly report anyone, but in these 68 posts, I found nothing that would make me report anyone, myself included. As for my friends, they are well aware how much each and every thread I open means to me, and they respect that. That's why I carefully choose those that are my friends...

As for this being serious or not, it's actually somewhere between. If we become too serious, this thread would turn into battlefield. Therefore, I think that lighthearted tone of the thread is exactly what we need. To discuss about characters, opinions, threads and theories and POVs that made some people write it. Of course, one day, this thread will be transformed into much serious analysis of dempographics, but as for the time being, I think that we should all amuse ourselves with connecting our background and ASOIAF. Even this is very valuable data to all those who will one day do demographic research of the board.

It was a joke. Sorry if I have offended thee.

So lighthearted and serious. Got it. I worry about other posters judging the "type" of people who make certain threads. Doesn't really seem like the most scientifically accurate way to gather demographics but whatever, I can roll with it.

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Bloodraven: By far the most mysterious and likely powerful of all the characters, Bloodraven is the wildcard. Fans of Bloodraven probably became obsessed with figuring out Mulholland Drive and Inception, are open to a drug culture, recreationally read Buddhist texts, and are good candidates for masterminds.

Arya: Pragmatic yet dark, Arya invokes a certain nihilism and existential in lieu of a conventional morality rubric. She treats all aspects of life - sex, death, being- as matter-of-fact and natural, and through her we're given an alternate view of mortality. Fans of Arya probably love the Sandman series, films depicting the aesthetiziation of violence, read Waiting for Godot, just don't give a fuck.

Brienne: Another character with an existentialist bent, Brienne's character reveals a certain futility to life, yet maintains a more conventionally recognizable ethical system and noble purpose. Fans of Brienne love stories in which the good guys win, favor Peggy from Mad Men, and have probably spent countless hours wandering around Hyrule looking for those fucking bottles in Zelda.

Littlefinger: Our Lord of Harrenhal is the model for ladder-climbing. I mean, he was a lord before and he received a lordly education, but he was pretty much a commoner. He worked his way up from master of rocks to master of a lot of stuff. Plus, he's really good at economics and shit. Those who anti-fan LF are generally very unhappy that they haven't been able to accomplish the same in their own lives. They are fond of immature name-calling (pissant, for example) and trying to convert others to Varysism. Typical careers for LF anti-fans are architect, engineer, vajazzler or computer hacker.

Yea, vajazzling as a profession seems comorbid with LF hate and Puddle love, it seems. Odd, given that I'd imagine Daario fans would engage in that strange grooming ritual.

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Littlefinger: Our Lord of Harrenhal is the model for ladder-climbing. I mean, he was a lord before and he received a lordly education, but he was pretty much a commoner. He worked his way up from master of rocks to master of a lot of stuff. Plus, he's really good at economics and shit. Those who anti-fan LF are generally very unhappy that they haven't been able to accomplish the same in their own lives. They are fond of immature name-calling (pissant, for example) and trying to convert others to Varysism. Typical careers for LF anti-fans are architect, engineer, vajazzler or computer hacker.

Yes I'm unhappy that I haven't achieved a single-girl obsession throughout all my life to the point of imagining and bragging about an entire complex relationship with her, which never even happened. Also going pedophile-mode and betraying all those I promised to help. Having no allegiences but to myself and repetitvely using people's trust in me to screw them up their asses. Yeah, who wouldn't want to be such amazing person?

On another note, I'm taking a degree on engineering and do enjoy Varys, so I'll give you credit for that :P

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Yea, vajazzling as a profession seems comorbid with LF hate and Puddle love, it seems. Odd, given that I'd imagine Daario fans would engage in that strange grooming ritual.

Nah Daario fans are more into pejazzling. World of difference, get with the times.

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I am a huge Stark fan (but what person who reads ASOIAF isn't? Their story and POVs take up most of the books, of course!) But in terms of a Stark fan, meaning one who roots for Starks as a House and family, I see several characteristics. First, there is the admiration of the tradition of House Stark. Second, there is admiration of living an honorable, relatively spare life. Third, there is admiration of the ability to thrive in a harsh environment. Finally, I would argue there is the extremely strong love of family.

In large part because that's how GRRM wrote the story, we get a view of how tight the Stark siblings are to each other, their interactions, and even despite their differences, the strong love between them. I think there's a deep yearning Stark fans have for that family connection, whether or not they have it in real life.

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So lighthearted and serious. Got it. I worry about other posters judging the "type" of people who make certain threads. Doesn't really seem like the most scientifically accurate way to gather demographics but whatever, I can roll with it.

When we start doing true demographic research, we'll use all scientifically accurate methods... For the time being, this is just easy way in...

How about Hodor fans? :dunno:

People who like making insignificant sentences no living person can understand, only to pretend they are cool? Well, I imagine them being phylosophists...

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People who like making insignificant sentences no living person can understand, only to pretend they are cool? Well, I imagine them being phylosophists...

Ha.

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