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What will happen to Stannis in TWOW?

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On 11/26/2017 at 4:52 PM, Corvo the Crow said:

 

 

He'll survive the battle with the Snow, but unless he sees a vision from the past... We all know Dany for the pyromaniac she is and she also wants to slay lies such as shadowless blue eyed kings wielding colorful swords.

Absolutely. She has a dragon and she's not afraid to use it. Just as Krazy me Dragonchow in Astapor. 

Edited by Lost Melnibonean

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I have come to the conclusion that Stannis will indeed take Winterfell. And this will have a dramatic impact on the storyline, as it means Jon won't be the one to take back his ancestral castle from the Boltons. It will be a southron jackanape that does so.

Furthermore, it means Stannis, and not Jon, becomes the rallying point for the North in the immediate future, given that he holds Winterfell. And it probably means that Jon's period as a Ghost and his journey back to being a human might take a bit longer, perhaps even most of the next book.

On the one hand I cannot help but have some appreciation for this, given that Stannis is such a strong character that like Tywin, the series will inevitably feel poorer once he is gone. But on the other hand, it makes the waters a bit more murky in terms of how the return of the Starks can be portrayed in triumphant fashion. If they simply join with Stannis, they are relegated to supporting players in their own Kingdom, and I simply don't think this is the route Martin will take, after all the effort expended on the Stark family.

The fun part now is to try and figure out how the story unfolds given a Stannis victory and successful conquest of Winterfell. I need to think on it a bit more.

Edited by Free Northman Reborn

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On ‎29‎.‎11‎.‎2017 at 9:54 AM, Free Northman Reborn said:

I have come to the conclusion that Stannis will indeed take Winterfell. And this will have a dramatic impact on the storyline, as it means Jon won't be the one to take back his ancestral castle from the Boltons. It will be a southron jackanape that does so.

Furthermore, it means Stannis, and not Jon, becomes the rallying point for the North in the immediate future, given that he holds Winterfell. And it probably means that Jon's period as a Ghost and his journey back to being a human might take a bit longer, perhaps even most of the next book.

On the one hand I cannot help but have some appreciation for this, given that Stannis is such a strong character that like Tywin, the series will inevitably feel poorer once he is gone. But on the other hand, it makes the waters a bit more murky in terms of how the return of the Starks can be portrayed in triumphant fashion. If they simply join with Stannis, they are relegated to supporting players in their own Kingdom, and I simply don't think this is the route Martin will take, after all the effort expended on the Stark family.

The fun part now is to try and figure out how the story unfolds given a Stannis victory and successful conquest of Winterfell. I need to think on it a bit more.

I can't see Stannis heading South anytime soon, with him being intent on defending the realm. To me, this means he'll either live for the most of the next book, perhaps even survivng as far as the last book or Dany will go North.

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I think that Stannis will unite the North and the Riverlands. Boltons made a huge mistake sending peoples outside walls of Winterfall. Fellow Lord Manderly will help Stannis. Then he will head north to the Wall. Or maybe he will go further south to free Storm's End if the castle will falls to Griffs.

Shereen will not be burned. 

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On 4-12-2017 at 10:49 PM, Sergey Dukman said:

I think that Stannis will unite the North and the Riverlands. Boltons made a huge mistake sending peoples outside walls of Winterfall. Fellow Lord Manderly will help Stannis. Then he will head north to the Wall. Or maybe he will go further south to free Storm's End if the castle will falls to Griffs.

Shereen will not be burned. 

Stannis won't go so far south, even if he does he will not have enough men to march all the way south to free Storm's end(wich hasn't much value anymore) There will be Lannisters and Tyrell's waiting for him if he does.

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On 2.9.2017 at 2:49 AM, Dragonsbone said:

Exactly. This is why a "rightful" King is kind of an oxymoron. There can not be a "rightful" King, since every dynasty becomes a dynasty by breaking a Law.

Well, I would say:

As long as a dynasty exists, there IS a succession rule and there ARE reightfull heirs.
As long as anyone kills the "rightful King" and ursurps the throne for himself...

 

It's a kind of "the winner makes the rules"...

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