Winnief Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 And thanks for reminding me about Jon and Ygritte. God, when watching the show, that one ate up WAY too much screen time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckal Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 And thanks for reminding me about Jon and Ygritte. God, when watching the show, that one ate up WAY too much screen time... It hurt even more because they created a 'let's chase each other' scenario that lasted for 2 episodes which also resulted in cutting out Jon traveling with the awesome Qhorin and NW 'elite' guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Jaime and Cersei. Not because of the incest but because of how she corrupts him. Plus the whole sex next to Joffreys corpse, I mean, WTF!I really dislike the notion that somehow Cersei is to blame for all of Jaime's bullshit. They're exactly the same age, she's not some older woman that sexually manipulated him. He was a willing participant in their goings on. He chose to do the things he chose to do. She did not force him. The idea that Jaime is some lovesick puppy incapable of making choices goes against his entire POV. Yes, he's a man in love and therefore does things that make her happy, but that's love not manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJIM Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tyrion and Shae, Jon and Ygritte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaggCannibal Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I really dislike the notion that somehow Cersei is to blame for all of Jaime's bullshit. They're exactly the same age, she's not some older woman that sexually manipulated him. He was a willing participant in their goings on. He chose to do the things he chose to do. She did not force him. The idea that Jaime is some lovesick puppy incapable of making choices goes against his entire POV. Yes, he's a man in love and therefore does things that make her happy, but that's love not manipulation. :agree: And that sexy time next to Joffrey's corps was completely on Jaime, which is also the reason so many readers seem to be ok with it. It's Jaime, everything he does wrong is someone else's fault. Or not a fault at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thornhart Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dany/Anyone. Drogo, Daario, Jorah, Jon, Young G. ANYONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 @ Dany Girl My saying of how Cersei corrupts him is based on text, and is simply my opinion, I have been wrong many a time! What I see is when Jamie is apart from Cersei he behaves differently, starts to rethink his actions and does make some changes. When Cersei is away from Jamie, she simply finds another man, or two, or three to have sex with and then manipulate, yes, manipulate, to do her bidding. Kettle back, her nephew, moon boy for all we know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnief Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Also Walder Frey/Anyone... Really just about any Frey, (except Roslin) with anyone-especially if it's another Frey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaggCannibal Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dany/Anyone. Drogo, Daario, Jorah, Jon, Young G. ANYONE.So the main issue is Dany being in a relationship. Why is she not allowed to love? And isn't this a bit sexist? @ Dany GirlMy saying of how Cersei corrupts him is based on text, and is simply my opinion, I have been wrong many a time!What I see is when Jamie is apart from Cersei he behaves differently, starts to rethink his actions and does make some changes.When Cersei is away from Jamie, she simply finds another man, or two, or three to have sex with and then manipulate, yes, manipulate, to do her bidding. Kettle back, her nephew, moon boy for all we know!As is her right, they aren't married. Not her fault Jaime dreams it different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Rhaegar and Lyanna just cheesy. Though I don't deny it.I hated Dany/Drogo the first time I read, and the show did not change my mind about the pairing.Tyrion/Shae and Jon/Ygritte I don't consider Tyrion and Sansa a couple, and I hope they never become one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Lancel and Gatehouse Ami. In a perfect world it would be a great match, but with Lancel being so shamed by Tyrion over doing Cersei that he's off sex forever now makes it pathetic. He's off in the chapel mortifying the flesh and she's trying to seduce whoever in the great hall. OTOH, I love Roose and Fat Walda. The Leechlord and the head weasel's grand daughter, what's not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Also Walder Frey/Anyone... Really just about any Frey, (except Roslin) with anyone-especially if it's another Frey. But you can't deny the awesomeness that is Roose/Fat Walda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ned's Little Girl Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Except for Ramsay Bolton, I'm actually okay with Anyone + Anyone, as long as I don't have to read their sex scenes. I found all of those to be pretty painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Mini Dragons Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Dany & Hizdahr Ramsey & poor Jeyne Poole Tyrion & Shae - not so much stab myself in the face, but slap Tyrion silly for falling for her in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Tyrion/Tysha, Tyrion/Shae, Tyrion/Penny Tywin/Joanna, Robb/Jeyne, Florian/Jonquil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I like to repress this part specifically. Best time to get jiggy with it, really.......if one of them isn't packing birth control, that is. Jeez, forgetting the Jaime and Cersei part of it, hasn't anyone been in love enough to not care whether there is some period blood involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I really dislike the notion that somehow Cersei is to blame for all of Jaime's bullshit. They're exactly the same age, she's not some older woman that sexually manipulated him. He was a willing participant in their goings on. He chose to do the things he chose to do. She did not force him. The idea that Jaime is some lovesick puppy incapable of making choices goes against his entire POV. Yes, he's a man in love and therefore does things that make her happy, but that's love not manipulation. My problem with it is not that he's some lovesick puppy, nor do I totally blame Cersei for Jaime's actions. My problem with it is that Cersei led Jaime to believe that it was really and truly love, not almost auto-erotism on her part, only wanting him because he was a reflection of her. Jaime, at least.......can be said to have truly loved her, Cersei.....can't really love anyone, that's my issue with it. I do wish he'd woken up to it long ago, but better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 :agree: And that sexy time next to Joffrey's corps was completely on Jaime, which is also the reason so many readers seem to be ok with it. It's Jaime, everything he does wrong is someone else's fault. Or not a fault at all. My issue with this is: Who cares, it's Joffrey, he's never looked better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pollo Loco Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 @ Dany GirlMy saying of how Cersei corrupts him is based on text, and is simply my opinion, I have been wrong many a time!What I see is when Jamie is apart from Cersei he behaves differently, starts to rethink his actions and does make some changes.When Cersei is away from Jamie, she simply finds another man, or two, or three to have sex with and then manipulate, yes, manipulate, to do her bidding. Kettle back, her nephew, moon boy for all we know!nah your right, she implements everything she tells Sansa during Blackwater against Jamie when he returns, but he won't bite, jamie is guilty of crimes but that doesn't mean he wasn't manipulated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 But you can't deny the awesomeness that is Roose/Fat Walda :agree: I really do dream of the two of them making it, and raising kids together at the Dreadfort. Now, if Ramsey is down in the dungeons, that's just a bonus. I can't beleive I didn't notice that Fat Walda was preggers in that last Winterfell chapter until a reread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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