Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Ok. That should clear it then. Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrik of Dorne Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 And what is a "MUSH"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 http://www.westeros.org/BoD/FAQ/Entry/What_is_a_MUSHThis is a mushSo we can assume that besides the novels only TWOIAF and TLOIAF are canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 http://www.westeros.org/BoD/FAQ/Entry/What_is_a_MUSHThis is a mushSo we can assume that besides the novels only TWOIAF and TLOIAF are canon?Yup.But I think some of the family trees have some truth in them. Not sure though.Asoiaf, Tloiaf, Twoiaf, P&Q and Rogue Prince and Dunk and Egg series are all canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yup.But I think some of the family trees have some truth in them. Not sure though.Asoiaf, Tloiaf, Twoiaf, P&Q and Rogue Prince and Dunk and Egg series are all canon.Thanks for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrik of Dorne Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Thanks for the clarification (about the "mush"). I'll wait for the official errata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Pycelle did narrate the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaguastanSelmy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 In tWoIaF, it was mentioned that Stafford was the eldest son and heir of Ser Jason. However, in ConCarolinas reading, it was said that Stafford's mother Marla Prester was the second wife if Jason. Jason's first wife gave him a son called Damon according to tWoIaF, which was conflicted to Stafford being an heir. [unless before Stafford was captured, Damon had been dead and his son Damion was not born or just a baby and somehow Marla helped Stafford jump over Damion and made her own son as heir to Jason.] I believe tWoIaF publication is considered cannon. So if there is no underlying suggestion we should count ConCarolinas nothing, even not a semi-cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I believe it's been mentioned before that the Westerlands section was written before the family tree was completed. Originally Jason wasn't supposed to have issue with Alys Stackspear, I don't think (it's said she died in childbirth in the ConCarolinas reading, but no mention of any living children). When doing the family trees, GRRM decided to work Damion in there and didn't update the Westerlands section to address the discrepancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Here's a potential inconsistency. The Iron Islands section (particularly The Old Way and the New) tells us the following: As lord, however, Quellon preferred to walk the road of peace. He forbade reaving, save by his leave. He brought maesters to the Iron Islands by the score, to serve as healers to the sick and tutors to the young; with them came their ravens, whose black wings would tie the isles to the green lands tighter than ever before.In The Princess and the Queen, we're told that Otto Hightower sent a raven to Dalton Greyjoy.I say this is a potential inconsistency because it could very well be that Otto sent the raven to an intermediary who communicated with Dalton Greyjoy. It's also possible that the Iron Islands had maesters (or at least ravens) at that time and got rid of them later, only for Quellon to bring them back. It would seem if the latter was the case, though, it would possibly have occurred alongside the expulsion of the Faith of the Seven from the Iron Islands which happened during the reign of Aenys I, well before Dalton Greyjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petite Psycophant Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just out of curiosity, for those of us who don't have a digital version of the book, will there be an "official" compilation with all the fixes made available at a certain point? By "official" I mean anything from as a simple as a locked thread with all the fixes to maybe a word document we can download from here to maybe a free or very cheap digital version (not of the entire world book) of the fixes to be downloaded form amazon, android and apple app stores... etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I wondered why the wiki says lotus port like Tloiaf, while ran confirmed it as lotus point as named in Twoiaf.Any clarification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I wondered why the wiki says lotus port like Tloiaf, while ran confirmed it as lotus point as named in Twoiaf.Any clarification? Because it was mistakenly labeled Lotus Port in The Lands of Ice and Fire. Every mention in the books says point. Edit: someone should change it, but I'm not sure how to rename pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittanian Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Because it was mistakenly labeled Lotus Port in The Lands of Ice and Fire. Every mention in the books says point. Edit: someone should change it, but I'm not sure how to rename pages. Here are instructions on how to move a page. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Help:Moving_a_page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Mando Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Because it was mistakenly labeled Lotus Port in The Lands of Ice and Fire. Every mention in the books says point. Edit: someone should change it, but I'm not sure how to rename pages.Thanks, i just didnt remember that it was mentioned in the novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Here are instructions on how to move a page.http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Help:Moving_a_page Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time. Thanks, i just didnt remember that it was mentioned in the novels. Just once I think. I didn't remember either I just did a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon Demands Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Problem regarding the Age of the Hundred Kingdoms: THE STORMLANDS[The Andals invaded and eventually intermingled with the First Men of the Stormlands, and the Children of the Forest were forgotten] House Durrandon reached its greatest heights inthe epoch that followed. During the Age of the HundredKingdoms, King Arlan I (the Avenger) swept all beforehim, extending the borders of his kingdom as far as theBlackwater Rush and the headwaters of the Mander. Hisgreat-grandson King Arlan III crossed both the Blackwaterand the Trident and claimed the riverlands in their entirety,at one point planting his crowned stag banner on the shoresof the Sunset Sea. This would seem to indicate that the "Age of the Hundred Kingdoms" lasted almost until the Targaryen Conquest itself. Or at least, up until about 300+ years before, when the other kingdoms had finished consolidating. Then again, of the four major kingdoms on the Proto-Reach, there were 1 - "The Reach" proper, the northern half along the Mander, ruled by House Gardener, 2 - Oldtown to the headwaters of the Honeywine, southern half, ruled by House Hightower, 3 - the western marches, "from Horn Hill to Nightsong", 4 - the Arbor. ....yet....the section on "Oldtown" states that Garland II Gardener won the Oldtown kingdom through marriage-alliance, AND that it was the LAST of the three other kingdoms to be united under Highgarden. AND the section on "The Reach" establishes fairly clearly that Garland II Gardener lived BEFORE the Andal invasion! So we've got an "Age of the Hundred Kingdoms" (though stated to not literally be that many).....which extended all the way to the Targaryen Conquest? Specifically, what was the "Age of the Hundred Kingdoms"? Everything between the Andal Invasion and the Targaryen Conquest?A generic term for "anything before the Targaryen Conquest", preceded only by the Age of Heroes? (Did the Age of Heroes end with the Long Night or the Andal Invasion?)Everything from post-Long Night to...slightly before the Targaryen Conquest, when things had solidified into about 8 or so major kingdoms in Westeros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 @The Dragon DemandsI've answered your question on this topic (my own conicidentally I swear I'm not self promoting lol) since there is information there.http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/120372-a-true-timeline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubicz Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Wow, George is In for a shock if he reads this thread. I don't think anyone's filled him in on TWOIAF errors / inconsistencies yet http://grrm.livejournal.com/398600.html?thread=20009224#t20009224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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