Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 A question of my own. Spoilertagged because it's about Winds When Winds starts, the Battle for Meereen will start, we know that thanks to the readings. But what would the most important/powerful force/component of the Yunkish forces be? Do we have any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegal Targaryen Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 World Book mentions are getting rather difficult to avoid these days, even on the general subforum. We are allowed to talk about it here, though, but in spoiler tags, and preferably, I think, as little as possible (so no threads about something where the World Book contains the most important/biggest argument, for example). The "30 days after release", just to specify, will end this thursday, november 27th :) Did you mention all of Aerys' kids? =Yep It's on the way :) ;) That doesn't mean it is certain, though, but it could be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 A question of my own. Spoilertagged because it's about Winds When Winds starts, the Battle for Meereen will start, we know that thanks to the readings. But what would the most important/powerful force/component of the Yunkish forces be? Do we have any idea? I would think that the New Ghiscari legions -- similarly trained as Unsullied. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Table8 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is it explained in the book why, after defeat at the battle of blackwater, Melisandre didn't convince Stannis to travel to Volantis to get a fresh army? If she believed so deeply that Stannis was AA, surely she would expect to attract followers of R'hollor. Seems like a plot hole, but I can't remember if reasons were given why this wasn't an immediate response after Stannis's defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is it explained in the book why, after defeat at the battle of blackwater, Melisandre didn't convince Stannis to travel to Volantis to get a fresh army? If she believed so deeply that Stannis was AA, surely she would expect to attract followers of R'hollor. Seems like a plot hole, but I can't remember if reasons were given why this wasn't an immediate response after Stannis's defeat.Why did Melisandre seek out Stannis? Did she see him in her flames and decided to seek him out on her own, or is she on a mission on behalf of the red priests? It doesn't seem at any point as if the latter is the case, when you compare to Moqorro who has been sent out by the priesthood.You're right. Melisandre has gone to Stannis entirely on her own, and has her own agenda. SSMhttp://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Asshai.com_Interview_in_Barcelona/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is their any kind of law system in Westeros? If a normal citizen kills another citizen does he come in jail for this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There is position of master of laws in small council so there must be some king's law. But I think it's lord who judges and punishes in his land. And lord can be judged by his overlord, overlord by Warden or Lord Paramount and they by king and council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There are definitly laws in Westeros, a few are mentioned in the entire series. When someone from the smallfolk kills another, surely he gets arrested. Whether the choice between death and the Wall is always given, is unknown. Perhaps that is only done when there is a Black Brother around to take the criminal north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Is their any kind of law system in Westeros? If a normal citizen kills another citizen does he come in jail for this ? It depends, as in the real world and even today. A killing can be murder, manslaughter by some intend or rather by some neglect, or a pure accident. Something made me write down an example that just came up in my mind. It is not ASoIaF-related and I put it in spoilers so ne need to read it unless you really want to.Imagine a miner announces widely there will be an explosion in the mine tomorrow noon, he makes sure the postern entrance to the mine is properly sealed and he posts a guard at that back gate. Then he walks around, goes in the main entrance and has the mine securely cleared of anybody else and prepares for the explosion. He then closes the main entrance and guards the mine himself. An hour before noon, he has a runner ask at the back gate if all is well. The runner returns with an ok from the guard of that gate.Then a few youths aproach the guard at the postern entry and offer the guard a smoke and ask all there is to know about the explosion. The guard tells them the little he knows. As the drug grows on the guard, the youths unseal and unbar the entry and sneak into the mine feeling excited and brave. The explosion strikes and injures or maybe even kills some of the youths. Chances are the law will find the miner's action to have caused the loss of life or limbs or loss of health of some of those youths. Chances are, he will be found innocent of it as he had done and checked for all the necessary security measures he could possibly have thought of. I thought I remembered some more mentions of law and justice in SSMs but this is what I found: - Great Councils and the Law- Matters of Honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizasterJ Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 At the onset of the war of 5 kings , which of the 7 kingdoms had the smallest army? The Iron born? Dorne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 At the onset of the war of 5 kings , which of the 7 kingdoms had the smallest army? The Iron born? Dorne? Iron Born, I'd say. Small area, harsh climate, surely not densely populated - all of this means smaller overall population - and therefore smaller army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 ^Technically the Ironborn, but a larger segment than normal of their army is experienced at fighting and they fight armored on ships whereas other people are afraid to wear armor because there's no way to swim. Rhaenys, the Ghiscari Legions are the most numerous force with the Yunkai but 2 out of what I believe is 6 legions are camped on the far side of the river, essentially removing them from the conflict. There is a free company that has 3k men, compared to the Tattered Prince having 2k. Given that the Free companies seem to contain a variety of troops but have a heavy amount of armored cavalry similar to knights I'm going to make the assumption that they are a powerful force. The Yunkish masters are definitely the weakest, they have been hit hard by the pale mare and each of them commands their own slave force. There are other notable forces as well, Tolosi slingers, 500 camel riding troops from Qarth etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 A question of my own. Spoilertagged because it's about Winds When Winds starts, the Battle for Meereen will start, we know that thanks to the readings. But what would the most important/powerful force/component of the Yunkish forces be? Do we have any idea? I would think that the New Ghiscari legions -- similarly trained as Unsullied. :) Yeah, I concur. It can't be slave soldiers of Yunkai. There are few mercenary companies (Company of the Cat, Windblown and others), but from what we've seen so far of them - mercenaries were not impressive. Legions of New Ghis are trained, skilled and disciplined, and are best contingent that besiegers currently have. We must also account navy from Volantis, though I have no idea how powerful it is or e.g. if it is manned by slaves (who just may be unwilling to fight against "Breaker of Chains" ). Is it explained in the book why, after defeat at the battle of blackwater, Melisandre didn't convince Stannis to travel to Volantis to get a fresh army? If she believed so deeply that Stannis was AA, surely she would expect to attract followers of R'hollor. Seems like a plot hole, but I can't remember if reasons were given why this wasn't an immediate response after Stannis's defeat. And who would provide said army? Not Volantenese trairchs - they have no interest in conquering Westeros. And not priests and followers of Rh'llor - for don't believe that Stannis is AAR (but Dany). They would simply reject Mel and Stannis. Also, it's mentioned in one of SSMs that Mel has her own agenda, separate of other Red Priests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 If Renly was not kill by the Shadow and Stannis died in the battle against him; what would Tyrells do to Stannis' family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Probably kept hostages to ensure loyalty of Florents and Dragonstone sworn lords. Or just beheaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Probably kept hostages to ensure loyalty of Florents and Dragonstone sworn lords. Or just beheaded What would happen to the kids living there. Some of them has some potenial and Queen of thorns might want to foster them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Tyrells probably would destroy their enemies since conquest Florents if they had a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Which houses has Kings blood?I know these ones has:Stark- Kings of Winter Karstark- Kings of WinterBlackwood- Kings in their own land once. Bracken - same as Blackwood.Arryn- Kings of the Vale Baratheon- Robert , Targ , Durrandeon( Storm Kings) Targaryen- Kings on the ITMartell- Nymeria the warrior princessFlorent - House Gardener( Kings of the Reach) Lannister - Kings of the RockMay have Kings blood:Greyjoy- If the legend of the grey King is trueTyrell - Didnt they have blood of House Gardener? Umber - Maybe they where Kings of their own land once Bolton - Same as Umber.Tully - ???Dayne - Blood of Nymeria the warrior Princess? Is their any other Houses with Kings blood ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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