Hello World Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm sure it's still in his mind - but if he was secure in writing full-time (we might as well start crowdfunding his daughter's college fund now), then I know there are other stories in him to tell before he circles back to a First Apocalypse standalone. I wonder if he can tell the entire story of the First Apocalypse in one book, though. I’m sure once he starts writing he’ll find out that he needs at least three books. The same with PoN. Anyway, I’d more interested in a Cûno-Inchoroi Wars standalone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Just got an email that the Grimdark issue is available for pre-order coming out Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The PoN/AE books have sold over 125,000 copies for Overlook alone. For a small American press, that's pretty good. Add in the sales for Orbit (a much bigger publisher) and foreign translations and Bakker has probably cleared 250,000. Not bad for what remains a relatively obscure fantasy series. To put it in perspective, though, Joe Abercrombie has sold well north of 3 million copies. The Name of the Wind by itself has likely sold well over a million copies. A relative newcomer like Mark Lawrence has sold over 300,000 and is likely closing in on half a million total, in just three and a half years. Even Scott Lynch has shifted over half a million copies of The Lies of Locke Lamora by itself. Bakker's okay, but 250,000 sales in ten years is firmly in 'cult author' territory. As I've said many times before, we pretty much need Overlook to drop the series at this point and for Orbit USA to take it over. They can give it a bigger push and get it on the shelves in the US, which is where a lot of the problems are occurring. Yes, it's a niche and philosophical work, but so are the Dune books and they've done 'okay' (to the tune of 20 million sales and climbing).If orbit USA does take over they should do it on the condition tdtcb is a second edition, he could be free to change the text but really all you have to do is interleave the chapters in a more coherent narrative structure. Once the first book doesn't have a reader defeating approach and uses an approach used in the other four books, sales should double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm sure it's still in his mind - but if he was secure in writing full-time (we might as well start crowdfunding his daughter's college fund now), then I know there are other stories in him to tell before he circles back to a First Apocalypse standalone. Am I the only one hoping for The Semantic Apocalypse? Anything that makes transhumanists balk at their own agenda is good fun - plus a book about people fucking with their minds & bodies would be very Bakker-ish. I'd personally consider it a prequel to the fantasies anyway, even if the Inchies aren't really derived from human males as their base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Szal Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 See that's what makes me think this whole thing Is a joke. Has anyone seen the reviews on Grimdark magazine's website? They give books a rating with a bunch of "Lord Grimdarks" instead of stars. You should see it for yourself, here is the review of Prince of Thorns, which got 5/5. You guys have likely figured it out already, but it's not a joke. Far from it, actually. In fact, I'm the guy who wrote that Prince of Thorns review that you linked (thanks for that, by the way), and I have a review contribution coming up in Issue #2 alongside Bakker (so excited to be given that oppotunity), and I know the editor of the magazine in person, so yeah, it's not a joke at all. And the plastering of Abercrombie's melon on the review is just a bit of the ol' fun. I mean, the world needs a grimdark magazine. Right? I must say, though, that some of the responses in this thread are quite hiairlous (in a good way!) I hope you enjoy the magazine issue and my review that'll be included in it. - J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Bakker's new story will be published in Grimdark Magazine on January 1st! It will be part 1 of 2 with the second part due out in the next issue of Grimdark. Woohoo! Grimdark is here!: http://grimdarkmagazine.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 But... there is already a thread about this... that you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 But... there is already a thread about this... that you started. i started a thread about the excerpt before--i hope this is not breaking forum rules! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peadar Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Bakker's new story will be published in Grimdark Magazine on January 1st! It will be part 1 of 2 with the second part due out in the next issue of Grimdark. Woohoo! I for one, love Bakker. You should provide a link to the magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Grimdark Issue #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 i started a thread about the excerpt before--i hope this is not breaking forum rules! :(You could probably have edited the original post in the other thread (that allows you to change the thread title) and then posted this update. Would be slightly better etiquette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 You could probably have edited the original post in the other thread (that allows you to change the thread title) and then posted this update. Would be slightly better etiquette. i am sorry! do you think i should do that now, or is it too late? either way, i will remember, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 I for one, love Bakker. You should provide a link to the magazine. d'oh! thank you! did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Don't worry, this is a Bakker forum after all. ;) Although a Mod might decide to merge the two threads. You can ask them to do it yourself by reporting this thread if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 This makes me wonder... If the series becomes a best seller after Bakker’s death are we going to see prequels written by his children like The White Jihad and House Anasûrimbor? The First Apocalypse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Don't worry, this is a Bakker forum after all. ;) Although a Mod might decide to merge the two threads. You can ask them to do it yourself by reporting this thread if you want to. Will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 ok, mods contacted, hopefully i can find another way trip over my own feet before the day's out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'd recommend marking this thread as 'contains spoilers' and changing the title to indicate that here is where people can discuss the story with spoilers. Then have the other thread be the one that's, well, whatever it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'd recommend marking this thread as 'contains spoilers' and changing the title to indicate that here is where people can discuss the story with spoilers. Then have the other thread be the one that's, well, whatever it is now. i think the mods just killed the new thread, so this one is now morphed! thank you for pointing out that the title needed to change, i didn't know i could do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 After purchasing problems, I've read Part 1 :cool4: ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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