Madness Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 At least 3.5 grimdarks I believe the magazine has established them as Lord Grimdarks. Yeah I didn't assume that this was Scott's idea. He doesn't rank very high on the cynical marketeers list, most would agree ;) Lol - indeed. If I guessed, I'd say that Bakker had a mostly completed Atrocity Tale sitting around - which, in a comment on Four Revelations, he mentions 20 G (twenty thousand) words of such a story - and that it happened to fit Grimdark Magazine's industry call for "Grimdark" authors. Thus far I chalk up their minimal impact on the fact that despite high profile authors lending their names and works to the e-mag, Grimdark is a really novel kind of genre. As per reactions in this thread, some people couldn't believe this is a real thing but Grimdark, through the internet, seems to have collected enough cultural accruement (i.e. inside jokes, among other trappings) for the industry to think this e-mag could satisfy a real niche. It's a shame they want to pay professional rates (though, I'm working to get something in there for March, so I'm grateful in that sense). I'm still holding onto hope that The Unveiled anthology will happen in some form (which contained the other story mentioned in this post, apparently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Is there even a March issue? The website says January and April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Colour me corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Is there even a March issue? The website says January and April. Well you can register in March and get the issue in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I believe the magazine has established them as Lord Grimdarks. Lol - indeed. If I guessed, I'd say that Bakker had a mostly completed Atrocity Tale sitting around - which, in a comment on Four Revelations, he mentions 20 G (twenty thousand) words of such a story - and that it happened to fit Grimdark Magazine's industry call for "Grimdark" authors. Thus far I chalk up their minimal impact on the fact that despite high profile authors lending their names and works to the e-mag, Grimdark is a really novel kind of genre. As per reactions in this thread, some people couldn't believe this is a real thing but Grimdark, through the internet, seems to have collected enough cultural accruement (i.e. inside jokes, among other trappings) for the industry to think this e-mag could satisfy a real niche. It's a shame they want to pay professional rates (though, I'm working to get something in there for March, so I'm grateful in that sense). I'm still holding onto hope that The Unveiled anthology will happen in some form (which contained the other story mentioned in this post, apparently).20,000 words would translate to somewhere between 65-75 pages, so it does seem to be a fairly long short story then. More like one of GRRM's Dunk & Egg novellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakkerfans Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 I believe the magazine has established them as Lord Grimdarks. Lol - indeed. If I guessed, I'd say that Bakker had a mostly completed Atrocity Tale sitting around - which, in a comment on Four Revelations, he mentions 20 G (twenty thousand) words of such a story - and that it happened to fit Grimdark Magazine's industry call for "Grimdark" authors. Thus far I chalk up their minimal impact on the fact that despite high profile authors lending their names and works to the e-mag, Grimdark is a really novel kind of genre. As per reactions in this thread, some people couldn't believe this is a real thing but Grimdark, through the internet, seems to have collected enough cultural accruement (i.e. inside jokes, among other trappings) for the industry to think this e-mag could satisfy a real niche. It's a shame they want to pay professional rates (though, I'm working to get something in there for March, so I'm grateful in that sense). I'm still holding onto hope that The Unveiled anthology will happen in some form (which contained the other story mentioned in this post, apparently). :( i thought 20g was 20gigabytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 :( i thought 20g was 20gigabytes Lol - 20g is a lot of text, MG :P. Any chance that Bakker would eventually post this on his website like The False Sun once the magazine has had some time with it? I doubt it. I'm not exactly sure how it works for real authors but as per regular submissions, reprint rights return to the author after a year, I believe? Honestly, I'd rather he take down the Atrocity Tales, polish them up, and start getting them into published markets/work towards an anthology. Though, I don't know how much hold on Earwa-content his publishers have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hey, Madness. I noticed that Bakker mentioned on Three Seas forum that he had a an outline for a First Apocalypse standalone... Do you have any idea whether he’s still considering that or is it something that’s never going to happen due to the lack of sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcooper Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hey, Madness. I noticed that Bakker mentioned on Three Seas forum that he had a an outline for a First Apocalypse standalone... Do you have any idea whether he’s still considering that or is it something that’s never going to happen due to the lack of sales? Bakker is lacking in sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Bakker is lacking in sales?yep. Between his non earwa books doing very poorly and his earwa books only doing so so and being hurt by bad publishing he isn't making enough from books to be a full time author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcooper Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 yep. Between his non earwa books doing very poorly and his earwa books only doing so so and being hurt by bad publishing he isn't making enough from books to be a full time author. What the fuck? That's crazy! I thought for sure his Earwa books would be enough to make writing his full time profession. Could it be possible that he lives an extremely lavish lifestyle which makes the income target too high? I'd rather that be true than knowing a talent like Bakker's isn't being appreciated commercially. I realize very few fantasy/sci-fi authors will ever be wealthy, but surely the man deserves to be writing full-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Legend has it that this very forum ruined his career. Although I've found that account to be entirely apocryphal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Legend has it that by using ambiguous words like 'poor', certain posters have a strange habit of both being attached to an author and for some reason trying to put it down - thus telling other posters the author has poor sales when really they are just a regular mid lister in a market that fluctuates. Ie, take the doom calling with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff daddy Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^^^That's a good point too Even if this forum did have a lot of bad threads influenced by all that requires hate-inspired garbage in the past, I'd say it's equalled out by Bakker being just about the most acclaimed author talked about on here over the past couple of years. Either way, I think people do overestimate how much all that discussion impacted sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I don't know.....its a niche series, TSA. My wife reads bits and pieces of what I'm reading on my tablet while going to bed, the other night, she's like, "I bet that's some creepy shit your reading.". I was reading about the dream at the beginning of TTT, where Akka contacts Nautzera, and their in a dream at Dagliash(sp?) w/Mek. Anyhow, that's how she started ASOIAF, needless to say......I don't think she'll be picking up TSA anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I didn't say Bakker had poor sales. I said his non earwa books sold poorly. And they have. He is otherwise a solid mid list author. Why do you have to just not read the words I wrote? Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge truth even when it isn't palatable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Why do you have to just not read the words I wrote? Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge truth even when it isn't palatable? Uh, Worldborn men have not the heart for truth. Duh. Where the fuck have you been all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I didn't say Bakker had poor sales. I said his non earwa books sold poorly. And they have. He is otherwise a solid mid list author.Why do you have to just not read the words I wrote? Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge truth even when it isn't palatable?Why don't you like the salt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 It's the slug underneath I'm not fond of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pies Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Why is Bakker so revered on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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