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Which character do you think the show has left out will be the biggest mistake by D&D for not including them?


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I don't think there's anyone they skipped that will be a mistake. Annoyance, perhaps.



I don't like how both the Tyrells and Martells have only one male heir in the show (or in the Martells' case, one heir period.) In a world with such a high mortality rate, isn't that very risky? Just mention Garlan/Willas/Arianne/Quentyn, you don't even have to show them. Arianne's off in Essos finding herself, Quentyn slipped on a citrus peel and died since Season 2 (when Tyrion implied the Martells have at least two sons), which would be marginally less stupid than his actual death.


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If they do Varys' speech to Kevan I think there's a chance we could maybe get Griffs landing at storm's end with the Golden Company season 6.

I wanted LSH mainly to tie together J&B storylines, but them getting to her would have been slow for tv.

If Euron or Vic aren't cast, I'll be pretty bummed out because it's been such a bad adaptation of the Iron Islanders.

Most of all though I want them to cast the Skagosi, and cast a young Rickon that can act the part of a wild boy influenced by a Wildling and suspected cannibals.

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Nah, Faegon will be merged with Trystane Martell imo.

I don't think a secret identity sort of scheme will happen but functionally, I expect Trystane/Myrcella to replace fAegon/Arianne in the show. Dany will come and fight Trystane/Myrcella in addition to Stannis.

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I consider Coldhands. Not because I think he's a serious player in the series (although he may be much more then he appears) .. but the fact that I think they could have so easily included him , and the reward would have been much greater and more interesting



Arianne is a headscratcher



LSH .


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Specific spectacular moments? LSH & Manderly.

Storyline wise? Euron (if he's cut), Arianne and fAegon.

Because I like them? Belwas & Brave Companions.

But nothing is a make or break with it, I mean I didn't expect much from the show at all and am very happy with the result. Even the "Shitty Dorne Plot".

Stannis

Although I love Stephen Dillane and even like Show!Stannis, I do wish he was portrayed less evil throughout the series. S2E1->S2E9 was rolling but everything else? Like for the show, but dislike for the character. If that makes sense.

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For me the main contender is Lady Stoneheart.



Why?



1.) Cat's story is unfinished in the show. They spent a lot of time and effort setting up the way Cat feels towards her various children and in particular Jon Snow, even going to the extent that Robb was going to legitimize him as a true Stark. All of that was for naught if they just kill the family off and leave it at that.



2.) They spent a considerable amount of screen time in S4 setting up the Brotherhood Without Banners for something bigger, which never materialized onscreen. Even going to the extreme of showing Beric being resurrected by Thoros seemed to be setting things up. Hell even characters who should never have come across the BWB such as Mel is an auwful lot of trouble to go to just to forget they ever existed the following season.



3.) In the books a lot of what happens in the Riverlands has knock-on effects on the rest of the series. A lot of the less major characters pass through the Riverlands at various times and witness the effect of the war on the small folk. Using LS and the BWB to tell this story would have tied in nicely with introducing the Faith Millitant who have been so important in S5.



4.) A lot of show watchers, even if they've not read the books would be waiting for some sort of payback for the Red Wedding. Just carrying on like it never happened will alienate the viewers who liked the Stark storyline.



5.) The inclusion of LS would have meant they could have followed the actually book plots in stead of adding in nonsense fan-fiction plot lines like the Dorne rubbish we've had in S5. Both Brienne and Jamie have a lot of plot time in the Riverlands that has been upended by the show writers and replaced with terrible made up plots that don't add anything to the main plot. The material was all there but they ignored it to put their own story in the middle of one of the best stories there is.



My second choice would have to be Manderly. Reason being that it's about time there was some payback for the Starks in the show and you have everything you need right there in the books. You don't need to make up wedding scence like the marriage of Sansa and Ramsay, you don't need to make up Brienna acting as a rescue party in Winterfell. There was so much potential just by adding in a single Northern lord to the mix but they've just gone with the boring generic "evil" overlords, i.e. the Boltons, laying waste to the North and murdering their way to power.


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I'd really liked the characters of Lady Dustin and Lord Manderly. It would love having seen them instead of the nonsense of Sansa at Winterfell.



Lordsteve,



I can imagine how one could reach the conclusion of not including Lady Stonheart. But then, including the subplot of Beric's resurrection was beyond stupid. It's the same with Qentyn. If they want to ignore him, then they should have not said that they were sending Myrcella to marry Doran's younger son.



I could respect their decisions of choosing which character to include and which not if they did it in a consistent way.

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But then, including the subplot of Beric's resurrection was beyond stupid.

My point exactly. They've already set the scene with one resurrection happening, why just forget the whole arc and drop it?

LS could have been included asa means to get payback for the RW and she could easily have been used as a starting place for Brienne & Pod's in show plot this season. Why not get the BWB to send B&P off to rescue Sansa rather than have her go off on her own personal quest or have her just randomly bump into Littlefinger and Sansa on the road? It would have tied together the two threads quite well I think and avoided any contrived meetings and plot holes (which S4 & S5 have been full of with characters just bumping into each other all over the place).

If Beric's resurection was to set up for Jon being brought back after being stabbed then the two scenes are too far apart for non-readers to link the two. Having the resurrection in S4 needed something to become of it in that season.

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Arianne Martell. For what she represents. Still don't get why she was cut. Seems absolutely illogical to cast almost every character in Dorne except for the main one.

I hope it'll explain itself when the books and the show are both completed, or that she'll be, like the Reeds, Shireen, Ramsay and the Blackfish, introduced at a later point than she was in the books. Hardly see how they could do that, though (unless she's part of Doran's great scheme, and she's in a place no one expects (like Quentyn in the books).

I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, though.

That's pretty much my only complain about the show.

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I don't think cutting Arianne was a mistake, makes more sense to give her role to the vastly more interesting Sand Snakes whom the audience already has a connection with since their father was Oberyn. The problem is that D&D completely fucked up the execution of that solid idea by giving us really watered down versions of the Sand Snakes and ensuring that the entirety of the Dorne plot this season was a giant waste of time.



The lack of any northern lords being involved this season was a pretty big mistake I think. The whole Stannis plot in general has been a rushed mess, and with all the time they wasted this season on pointless bullshit I don't see why they couldn't give his story the screen time it needed. Having at least Manderly and Dustin would've given us a lot more interesting material than what we got.


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