Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyphillip Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Why is there two pages of discussion about this? I long for the time that there was intelligent conversations on this board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosh95 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't believe there will be anything quite like the Game of Thrones series, there will defiantly be other series looking for a simular success but I doubt they will get any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Once and Future King Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nowadays, it seems that every series/film/flick/thing that has either magic, dragons, politics, betrayals, "non-manichean" characters, medieval stuff or main characters dying in them are compared to Game of Thrones. It is somewhat, I'm sure, a commercial process. It is extremely selling to say "Look, this is like Game of Thrones but with pirates/politicians/actually historical characters." So recently I've re-watched Pirates of the Caribbean, and I feel like if there's a work of fiction that really deserves to be compared to Game of Thrones in this beginning of a century, it certainly is Pirates of the Caribbean. House of Cards may have politics, Breaking Bad may have gray characters, some other things may have betrayals and shit, but I think Pirates is really really close to GoT in its core and themes and moral subversiveness and fantastical environment. Both universes are both deeply down-to-earth and extremely mixed with magical elements. Its characters are both very cynical and outright heroic. Magical elements are treated with either disbelief or extreme seriousness by the characters; because they actually reflect something that is really human.Also, both stories are highly subversive from a moral point of view, and lead us to question our principles and to root for morally questionable characters. Most of the Pirates viewership support Jack Sparrow, the man who sent the whole crew of the HMS Dauntless to their graves at the end of film one, just as most of the GoT viewership support Tyrion, who willingly armed tribes of rebel savages who harrass, rob and murder innocent civilians.So both pieces of work are extremely intelligent in the philosophical reasoning they bring forward and very similar in the way that they do it. And finally, something that had not really stricken me until now : Pirates is EXTREMELY violent. Sure, it's a disneyfied kind of violence, and it is safe for kids cause you don't see lots of blood or such things. But just look how many innocent people are killed in these movies. How little the characters care when they kill people. We're talking actual pirates here. I now recall that some scenes really disturbed me as a kid. Pirates is deeply violent and brutal in the way it portrays human behaviour. So if we're really looking to compare stuff, or if we want a kid-version of GoT, there we have it.To be fair, they have very similar source material. GOT is based of one of the top two series in fantasy literature history.POTC is based of a theme park ride.Dany is more of a primary protagonist than Tyrion.And Dany does not have questionable moral?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Why is there two pages of discussion about this? I long for the time that there was intelligent conversations on this board... Maybe this is just a bot out to drive up early word of mouth for Pirates 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 To be fair, they have very similar source material. GOT is based of one of the top two series in fantasy literature history. Really? I thought it was based on a Song of Ice and Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Why is there two pages of discussion about this? I long for the time that there was intelligent conversations on this board... Sorry, I had forgotten that I was on westeros.org here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Once and Future King Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Really? I thought it was based on a Song of Ice and Fire.The second highest selling fantasy series ever is ASOIAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not really comparable. I find Pirates to be plain bad in many parts of the last 3 movies with a campy, theme park style to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The second highest selling fantasy series ever is ASOIAF If you don't count Harry Potter, Twilight, Discworld, Narnia, Shannara and Wheel of Time as fantasies, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If you don't count Harry Potter, Twilight, Discworld, Narnia, Shannara and Wheel of Time as fantasies, sure. I was going to say that didn't sound right. I wouldn't put Twilight or Harry Potter in the same classification, but the rest all qualify, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Once and Future King Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I was going to say that didn't sound right. I wouldn't put Twilight or Harry Potter in the same classification, but the rest all qualify, methinks.My bad third. Beats wheel of time per book not over all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Walker Texas Ranger Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A lot of people on this forum are irrationally dismissive of Game of Thrones. Pirates 1 was pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A lot of people on this forum are irrationally dismissive of Game of Thrones. Pirates 1 was pretty good too. After the shine has worn off it's easier to go to dismissive rather than still accept it's an impressive work just not something one is enamored with any longer. Probably not right, but an easy trap to fall into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A lot of people on this forum are irrationally dismissive of Game of Thrones. Pirates 1 was pretty good too.Edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Well both the first film and season were good and then they both crumbled. This pretty much haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Any James Norrington's fans here? He is my favourite PotC and Disney character. He is not standard Disney's clichè villlain , he is one of few realistic and greyish Disney's characters. And has an epic death. "Do you fear death James Norrington? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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