The Once and Future King Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I appreciate the sanity you show, but its easier to do what most people do on this forum do and ignore trolls. Thanks for the support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I appreciate the sanity you show, but its easier to do what most people do on this forum do and ignore trolls.Thanks for the support You do realize that your posting unsubstantiated nonsense as if fact, unwillingness to provide sources for or concede when that unsubstantiated nonsense is fully debunked, and conversing in talking points kind of points to you as a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I appreciate the sanity you show, but its easier to do what most people do on this forum do and ignore trolls.Thanks for the support Okay, how about you take an opportunity to substantiate one of the claims you made previously, which I politely asked for you to back up, and then you ignored? You claimed that the five prisoners freed in exchange for Bowe Bergdahl were the worst of the worst, and one was responsible for bombing a Marine barracks. I would like some sources for that claim. Because I've seen sources that they are not anything like the way you characterized them: https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/bergdahl-and-the-guantanamo-five-the-long-awaited-us-taleban-prisoner-swap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Once and Future King Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 You do realize that your posting unsubstantiated nonsense as if fact, unwillingness to provide sources for or concede when that unsubstantiated nonsense is fully debunked, and conversing in talking points kind of points to you as a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Once and Future King Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Apart from never having said anything close to what was suggested I said I have always defended myself to any direct question within the confines of normal conversation. It is only when someone has no interest in conversing and only wants to argue that I ignore her or his posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 No, you haven't. You claimed that legally the West Bank was disputed territory and never responded to me pointing out that the Israeli Supreme Court disagreed with you and ruled it was occupied territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Apart from never having said anything close to what was suggested I said I have always defended myself to any direct question within the confines of normal conversation.It is only when someone has no interest in conversing and only wants to argue that I ignore her or his posts. The 5 men who were released were all murderers, terrorist who planed attacks and killed people. one of them help blow up a marine barracks. Thats more people alone then a Seal team. Also the Seals signed up for this. American citizens did not. http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/126559-us-politics-netanyahu-and-boehner-otp/?p=6851221 I can understand why you may not remember that post, as it was right at the time you let out the twin whoppers that you didn't think SEALs would be in any danger in a rescue operation, and that America has never negotiated with terrorists (*cough* Ronald Reagan *cough*). You were also being pretty... uncivilized with people you disagreed with. Something about manbearpig or something. And then when a veteran asked you to dial down the bloodthirsty machismo, you vanished from the thread. So maybe you missed my fairly polite request for substantiation of a claim you most fucking definitely did make. Can you please support your assertion that one of the prisoners freed in exchange for Bowe Bergdahl blew up a Marine barracks? Pretty please. With sugar on top. In the interests of conversing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 This entire thread needs to be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfish Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 This entire thread needs to be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure Nookin's too gud fir it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Is my phone messing with me, or does Once not know how to use the quote feature correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Is my phone messing with me, or does Once not know how to use the quote feature correctly? It's pretty complicated, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannatic Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Why do those on the left have so much disdain for libertarians? I can almostunderstand why neo cons do. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRider Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm disappointed, but not all together surprised by the amount of Leftists in this thread. I'll just say for now that Rand Paul is the kind of change this country needs after 8 years of unchecked executive power advancing progressive agendas which seek to destroy anything resembling the country I grew up in. It is apparent you are not even interested in a conversation, nor have you put any effort into examining your stance. 2/10 Would not listen again. Feel bad that I read it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannatic Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Oh, but I am interested in conversation. And I know my stance. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Why do those on the left have so much disdain for libertarians? I can almostunderstand why neo cons do. Almost. Because most self-professed libertarians aren't. They aren't intellectually consistent, a comically high number of them are college freshman econ majors who think they know shit about shit, and most of them are pretty much garden-variety Republicans. I've known a few real libertarians, and while I disagree with them, I respect that they're consistent and prepared to accept the consequences of their worldview. But most of you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Because most self-professed libertarians aren't. They aren't intellectually consistent, a comically high number of them are college freshman econ majors who think they know shit about shit, and most of them are pretty much garden-variety Republicans. I've known a few real libertarians, and while I disagree with them, I respect that they're consistent and prepared to accept the consequences of their worldview. But most of you aren't.Most democrats or republicans are intellectually consistent and have thought out the consequences of their worldview?Obviously not. Politics for the average voter is mostly just tribal signaling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Most democrats or republicans are intellectually consistent and have thought out the consequences of their worldview?Obviously not. Politics for the average voter is mostly just tribal signalingDemocrats and Republicans are political parties; libertarianism is an ideology. If you mean capital-L Libertarians, well, sure, I'm happy to believe that you registered with the Libertarian party, if you say it's so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Democrats and Republicans are political parties; libertarianism is an ideology. If you mean capital-L Libertarians, well, sure, I'm happy to believe that you registered with the Libertarian party, if you say it's so.Semantic dodge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannatic Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Because most self-professed libertarians aren't. They aren't intellectually consistent, a comically high number of them are college freshman econ majors who think they know shit about shit, and most of them are pretty much garden-variety Republicans. I've known a few real libertarians, and while I disagree with them, I respect that they're consistent and prepared to accept the consequences of their worldview. But most of you aren't. This really is interesting to me. I'm a member of a right-leaning site too, and they spew as much venom toward libertarians as I see in this thread for similar, but different, reasons. What is a garden variety Republican, by the way? What are the consequences of a Libertarian world view? I think the main reason Leftists and Neo-Cons are so perturbed by Libertarians is because they infringe upon alot of the constituents of both parties. Fiscal conservatism and Constitutional Preservation for the GOP, and social liberalism for the Democrats. I think the radicals in both parties know that if Libertarianism ever took over the GOP, or came into a party of it's own, then their end goals are finished. Both the never-ending-war pro-military industrial complex super-state for the Neo-Cons and the Marxist-Progressive, European style socialist state that the Neo-Cons and Leftists respectively want would end up on the ash heap of history. Where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think the main reason Leftists and Neo-Cons are so perturbed by Libertarians is because they infringe upon alot of the constituents of both parties. Fiscal conservatism and Constitutional Preservation for the GOP, and social liberalism for the Democrats. I think the radicals in both parties know that if Libertarianism ever took over the GOP, or came into a party of it's own, then their end goals are finished. Both the never-ending-war pro-military industrial complex super-state for the Neo-Cons and the Marxist-Progressive, European style socialist state that the Neo-Cons and Leftists respectively want would end up on the ash heap of history. Where they belong. I think I just came. Anyone want to check my pants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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