Fragile Bird Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Damn it, Ini. I'm so sorry. It was their mistake, not yours. And I think you're right, you have to find another job. Good luck. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempra Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 No, they aren't. It's a bit complicated but basically it's government so there isn't that much they could do even if they wanted to.Baltimore has pretty good tech opportunities but the move I want to make is a hard one.GF probably won't want to move. She has a big family all in the area, and a house.Sorry to hear about not getting the job. I know several people that commute from Baltimore to DC for work. It's a crappy commute but may open additional job opportunities, especially if you are looking to continue with the government.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Damn, Ini, that sucks. Good for you for deciding to leave though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_BlauerDragon Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 That sucks, Ini... I thought you had it in the bag for sure. Best of luck with finding a more grateful employer to replace them with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summah Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If it's government, can you transfer to a different agency? I've heard that as difficult as it can be to get a government job, that once one has one it's not so difficult to transfer to another agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not really. I'll PM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkess Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Aw, sorry to hear that. Idiots! I hope you end up somewhere even better. (Also, Gantt charts are really easy! And kind of fun.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Original Boss Guy was in town tonight and we had dinner. I'm super frustrated by what he told me...Sales Director listened to my presentation, talked to me for an hour, then said to him "she answered every question perfectly, we need to hire her". Then the reorg happened. I still haven't heard from New Boss Lady. I will follow up with her tomorrow at 1pm eastern with a "let's schedule a time to talk about next steps" message.Fuck this shit.i feel like this is partly a test about whether I can close a deal or not. Challenge accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears of Lys Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No, they aren't. It's a bit complicated but basically it's government so there isn't that much they could do even if they wanted to. Baltimore has pretty good tech opportunities but the move I want to make is a hard one. GF probably won't want to move. She has a big family all in the area, and a house. Sorry to hear that, but there'll be other opportunities for you. You're just that kind of guy! :) ALWAYS ask what the hiring decision was based on. It's amazing how much you learn by just asking this simple question. Onward and upward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Fuck this shit.i feel like this is partly a test about whether I can close a deal or not. Challenge accepted.Sales professionals are much better prepared than everyone else for pursuing new jobs. Good luck. If you had that kind of support from the sales director then I would expect you are still getting the job once new lady has had a chance to bond with you so that it does not feel like you are being foisted on her. Is there a way for you to meet her person, e.g. over dinner or drinks, to help build that rapport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ini, if it's the government organization I remember you working for before, you're almost certainly better off working for someone else. Especially if your IT department is anything like the one I'm familiar with. Good luck. My school year is over, but I'm working for the district doing curriculum development this week. They are providing lunch and I'm leaving at the end of my contractual hours with no work to take home. It's...amazing. What is this madness? Maybe I will apply to work in this office in a couple years if the stress of my regular job starts getting to me. I'm getting to meet other physics teachers and hear about how their schools are functional/dysfunctional, and it's making me realize that while my school has its horribly dysfunctional aspects, we actually had a somewhat decent science budget this year compared to the $2/student that some other high schools' departments got this year. Every time I have a stressful day at work, I think about going to work at another school, but now I'm thinking I wouldn't want to go back to such a small budget. Ugh. Has anyone here ever made a job decision based on whether you were getting the resources you needed to actually do your job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Kat, it is the same one.And I haven't had to make that call but I have seriously thought about that question and yes, one of the questions I would want to ask in any interview is whether my department gets the resources it needs to do its job properly. You can't straight up ask that, of course, because they're just going to say yes. But it's a question I'd want an answer to.(Working in IT, I would also want to know the department's status relative to others -- are they represented in senior leadership, do they have a seat at the table. Because too often IT is seen as a cost center, and with that mindset they often have decisions made about them without their input. But that doesn't apply to you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzydaBear Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Just explain how great you are for the job especially since you can post to a message board all day during work hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Sales professionals are much better prepared than everyone else for pursuing new jobs. Good luck. If you had that kind of support from the sales director then I would expect you are still getting the job once new lady has had a chance to bond with you so that it does not feel like you are being foisted on her. Is there a way for you to meet her person, e.g. over dinner or drinks, to help build that rapport?This is definitely something I've been thinking about - how to bond with her a bit more. She lives on the east coast and I'm in SF and I don't know her travel schedule so I'm not sure if an in-person meeting is feasible. I'm mentally drafting my "let's schedule a time to talk about my interview with the team members" message which I will send at 1:10pm her time...you've got me thinking of proposing we do it over FaceTime or Skype, which sounds like a pretty good idea for a few reasons. We will get a little face-to-face time, and it demonstrates my ability to make use of technology to connect with people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Well, after a week of anxiety and depression over radio silence, yesterday at 3 pm I received an email saying "we would like to move forward with you as our lead candidate for this role". We have a 30 minute phone call set up for Monday which I'm hoping is when we will work out the details of an offer. Original Boss Guy told me she is already talking about my onboarding so I think this might actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So...great news but not necessarily over the finish line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is good enough news that I did celebratory shots last night but I'm saving the Dom for when the offer letter is signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Break a leg AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is good enough news that I did celebratory shots last night but I'm saving the Dom for when the offer letter is signed. Here's hoping for the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is good enough news that I did celebratory shots last night but I'm saving the Dom for when the offer letter is signed. So are you taking your talents to Boston, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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