Season 6 Trailer

[Zadeth]

29 minutes ago, ravenous reader said:

Did anyone else think that the initial voice we hear in the trailer, saying 'he's gone' was that of Rory McCann, who plays the Hound?  Perhaps it's Sandor speaking about himself, saying 'The Hound' is gone!

The first time I watched it, I thought Davos. I've rewatched it a few more times, and I'm convinced it's Thorne.

[WolfOfWinter]

I'm confused.
 

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Why would the Umbers side with the Boltons?

 

 

[briantw]

Just now, WolfOfWinter said:

I'm confused.
 

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Why would the Umbers side with the Boltons?

 

 

 

 

 

In the books, wasn't one of them planning to side with the Boltons and the other going against them?

[Zadeth]

Just now, WolfOfWinter said:

I'm confused.
 

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Why would the Umbers side with the Boltons?

 

 

 

 

 

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Could all be part of a grand plan. Let Ramsay think he has the Northern Lords behind him, then mid battle they all turn on the Boltons and wipe them out. 

 

[ravenous reader]

12 minutes ago, Zadeth said:

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Could all be part of a grand plan. Let Ramsay think he has the Northern Lords behind him, then mid battle they all turn on the Boltons and wipe them out. 

 

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a 'mummer's farce'..?!

 

[sweetsunray]

2 hours ago, Zadeth said:

A member of another forum I am in posted this last night, so all credit goes to Archiechvyalthan!

Confirmed scenes in estimated Chronological order:

 

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EPISODE 1 (The Wall): Sunrise over Castle Black. Jon's body lies on the snow. / Melisandre confesses her mistake to Davos.

EPISODE 1 (The North): Roose and Ramsay are interrupted. / Sansa runs through a forest. / Sansa helps Theon in the frozen North. They are found by hunters. Brienne arrives and kills the Bolton men.

EPISODE 1 (Vaes Dothrak): The Dothraki begin the march to Vaes Dothrak with Dany as their prisoner. / Dany stands near a river. / The Dothraki set up camp and Qhono and Ahko escort a kneeling Dany to Khal Jhaqo's tent.

EPISODE 1/2 (King's Landing): Cersei awaits Jaime's ship escorted by the Mountain. She weeps. / Jaime and Cersei meet in private. Jaime promises vengeance. They kiss. / Tommen and Jaime stand by Myrcella's body. / Cersei comforts Tommen.

EPISODE 1/2 (Beyond the Wall): Bran and the Three-Eyed Raven are transported to Winterfell, where they see young Ned, Benjen, Lyanna and Hodor playing. Rickard Stark and Old Nan are also present.

EPISODE 1/2 (Meereen): An emaciated woman with a starving child pleads with Tyrion and Varys. / Tyrion and Varys gaze upon the "Mhysa is a master" sign. / Tyrion, Varys and Unsullied walk the Meereenese walls while former slaves and masters flee in the opposite direction. / Tyrion pours the wine back into the bottle as Varys, Missandei and Grey Worm look on.

EARLY SEASON (The Reach): Sam is seasick as he sails south with Gilly. / Sam talks to a maester in Oldtown.

EARLY SEASON (The North): A wounded Brienne enters a room. / Littlefinger meets with Yohn Royce and Robin Arryn at Royce's keep. / Ramsay looks on solemnly.

EARLY SEASON (The Wall): Davos sets up a pyre. / Alliser and his men break into a room. / An unknown figure touches Jon's face. / Davos apologizes for his swordsmanship and unsheathes his sword. Jon's body lies nearby with Ghost.

EARLY SEASON (Vaes Dothrak): Jorah finds Dany's ring in the wilderness. / Dany, the khalasar and their slaves approach Vaes Dothrak. She stares at the horse statues. / Jorah, Daario and some Dothraki face off in the desert near Vaes Dothrak. / Three riders are met by a Dothraki gathering.

EARLY/MID-SEASON (King's Landing): Septa Unella reads the Seven-Pointed Star to Margaery. / The High Sparrow looks down pensively at Margaery. He reaches out to her. / Olenna gives a harsh welcome to her son Mace and reprimands him for what happened to Margaery and Loras. / Cersei, Jaime and the Hand of the King meet in the throne room.

EARLY/MID-SEASON (The Iron Islands): A storm rages at sea. / Balon Greyjoy stands by the fire. / Euron shows his face at the swaying bridge. / A forlorn Yara gazes at the sea. Euron, Aeron and Yara Greyjoy face off in the Kingsmoot. The crowd cries out Euron's name. / Aeron drowns Euron. / Euron, Aeron and Theon take part in a furious chase to the water.

EARLY/MID-SEASON (?) (The Wall): Jon resurrects with the aid of Melisandre and Ghost. / A troubled Melisandre disrobes. / Melisandre rides out (possibly) accompanied by Sansa and Jon. Davos looks on.

EARLY/MID-SEASON (Meereen): Varys and Tyrion welcome High Priestess Kinvara (the highest of the Red God order) to Meereen, as part of a quest to convince the slaves that Dany is the chosen one. / Tyrion and Varys walk the streets of Meereen. / Kinvara preaches in the granaries of Meereen as former masters flock to her. / Tyrion sees Shae with Varys nearby.

EPISODE 3/4 (Braavos): Blind Arya begs in the street when The Waif finds her and strikes her.

EPISODE 4 (?) (Vaes Dothrak): Dany walks across Vaes Dothrak with Khal Jhaqo. / The Dothraki host a great celebration. / Jorah and Daario hide as they seek ways to infiltrate Vaes Dothrak. / A Lhazareen widow is taken aback by a stranger. / A gathering of khals takes place. They mock Dany, naming her "Queen of Nothing". A fight erupts between the different clans. / At nightfall, Drogon sets Vaes Dothrak's sacred temple on fire. All khals die except for one. Dany emerges from the flames unscathed and the Dothraki bow before her.

EPISODE 5 (?) (Vaes Dothrak): Dany leads a large khalasar in the desert alongside Daario.

EPISODE 5/6 (The Reach): The Tarlys dine in Horn Hill when they are interrupted by Sam and Gilly's arrival.

EPISODE 5/6 (Braavos): Arya watches Izembaro's play, a reenactment of King's Landing events. / Jaqen inspects the face of a dead man in the House of Black and White.

MID-/LATE SEASON (?) (King's Landing): Tommen approaches Cersei in the Throne Room, who is escorted by the Mountain. / Cersei chooses violence. The Mountain prepares to attack Lancel and the Faith Militant.

MID-/LATE SEASON (?) (The Riverlands): Septon Meribald and The Hound encounter a band of outlaws. / Graveyard.

MID-/LATE SEASON (?) (The North): Wyman Manderly gives a speech declaring his political allegiances in the presence of other northern lords. / Sansa listens in a Northern hall.

MID-/LATE SEASON (?) (The Wall): Jon convinces the wildlings to join the fight against the Boltons.

MID-/LATE SEASON (Meereen): Tyrion accompanies Varys to the Meereenese port. Varys sets sail. / Dany's chambers are attacked. / Yara visits a (possibly) Volantene whorehouse.

EPISODE 6 (King's Landing): The High Sparrow informs the people that Margaery has fully embraced the Seven. Jaime rides up to the Sept of Baelor escorted by Mace Tyrell's Highgarden soldiers, demanding Margaery's release. The Tyrell army prepares to attack. Tommen and Margaery emerge from inside the Sept bearing the banners of the Faith. They have both accepted the reformed Faith and are cheered by the people. Margaery then mounts Jaime's horse.

EPISODE 6 (?) (Beyond the Wall): Bran and the Three-Eyed Raven are transported to the Tower of Joy in a vision. Wielding two swords, Arthur Dayne fights several northerners outside the castle before embarking on a one-on-one duel with Ned Stark. Dayne is finally struck down by Howland Reed, who attacks him from behind.

EPISODE 7 (?) (The Riverlands): Jaime, Bronn and Lannister forces assist the Freys in their siege of Riverrun, still in power of Blackfish Tully. Edmure remains a Frey hostage. During the assault, the Blackfish defends the garrison and shoots flaming arrows at his opponents. / Jaime and the Blackfish have an argument. / Brienne has a discussion with Jaime before storming out of the tent. / Bronn pretends to attack Podrick. / Brienne talks with the Blackfish and offers her services.

EPISODE 7 (Braavos): Arya struggles in the water.

EPISODE 8 (Braavos): The Waif chases Arya through Braavos with a bloody knife. Arya jumps from a balcony trying to elude her.

EPISODE 9 (The North): Jon Stark, Davos, the Mormonts, the Hornwoods, Wun Wun, Tormund and the wildlings face Ramsay, the Boltons, the Karstarks and the Umbers in a major winter battle, a.k.a. Snowbowl or the Battle of Six Armies. / Ramsay rides to battle. / Ramsay displays two bodies upside down on Bolton crosses, burning during the battle. / Sansa and Littlefinger ride to the battlefield.

EPISODE 9/10 (Meereen): Activity in the gates of Meereen. / Tyrion, Dany, Missandei and Grey Worm meet with Razdal and two other masters. Drogon flies overhead.

LATE SEASON (The Riverlands): A Frey meets his end. / Arya returns to the Riverlands.

LATE SEASON (?) (The North): Sansa, Jon, Ramsay and Littlefinger have a heated interaction in the courtyard of Winterfell. A giant breaks through the gates and the people inside fight him off.

LATE SEASON (?) (Beyond the Wall): Bran comes face to face with the Night's King in a vision. / Bran rides through a snowy forest. / Meera hides near a tree. A hooded rider sets a wight on fire. / Hodor comes across wights and White Walkers.

LATE SEASON (?) (The Wall): An army of White Walkers approaches in the form of an avalanche.


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King's Landing: Olenna confronts Cersei. / Qyburn and Pycelle interact in Qyburn's laboratory. / The High Sparrow threatens to overthrow an empire.

The Riverlands / The North: Brienne takes part in a brutal fight.

The North: Sansa walks within sight of Winterfell. / Littlefinger arrives at Winterfell with accompanying knights. / Ramsay invites Jon to "come and see". / Littlefinger stands in the snow.

The Wall: Tormund and the wildlings set up camp.

Beyond the Wall: The Three-Eyed Raven describes the nature of the past.

Braavos: Jaqen takes a bath. / The Waif strikes Arya in the House of Black and White.

Meereen: Tyrion and Missandei talk in the Meereenese gardens. / The Sons of the Harpy kill masters outside Meereen. / Tyrion visits the catacombs.

Unknown: A lord gives a speech. / A captain of a tower makes a difficult decision. / A group of children savagely kill someone.

 

Regarding several unplaced scenes:

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The seeming frenzied stabbing older children possibly in KL: either killing Pycelle or Kevan? No idea when, but probably late in season, after Varys returns from Mereen, who's been said to take a ship from there.

The Waif striking Arya: in the trailer we see a spray of blood, and we also see a shot of blind Arya with healing lashes on her face. This seems to be the Waif taking on the role of the kindly man who strikes Blind Beth in her training to use her other senses. So it must be early in the season, since Arya was blinded at the end of S5.

 

[jonny__bravo]

20 minutes ago, The Arthur Smith said:

I'm very ambivalent with the scene where Arthur Dayne wielding 2 swords. Sound so Hollywood and cheesy, but at the same time, hoping it's going to be decent cuz it said that the producer went to find the best fighter to be cast as Arthur Dayne.

I suppose we don't really know how the fight at the TOJ unfolds, other than who dies and who survives and which of the survivors owe their live to the other. Still though nobody needs a repeat of the twirl and spin cutfest that was the Mountain vs the Viper.

[Zadeth]

7 minutes ago, ravenous reader said:

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a 'mummer's farce'..?!

 

Exactly. The North Remembers.

[Guest]

19 hours ago, KingBlackfyre said:

Jon is in a battle

 

OK, I agree this is Jon.

My thoughts on Jon in the trailer:

1) lying dead

2) Davos is protecting John's body from NW

3) Melisandre removes clothes and places hand on Jon

4) Davos or Mel commits suicide to save Jon (best is Davos gives his life force to Jon, and Mel gives her life force to her sword)

Pure,utter tinfoil

[WireEdge]

17 hours ago, The Arthur Smith said:

Also i realized something about that Mel scene where she's revealing her breast. It has taken resemblance to how Nissa Nissa bare her breast for Azor Ahai to sacrifice her to create Lightbringer, further backing up the speculation on Davos enacting the action on Mel to resurrect Jon.

I was going through the whole thread to see if anyone else had this thought. It was what I immediately thought. She isn't seducing anyone, she is preparing to sacrifice herself (my guess). Perhaps she realizes that all the things she had seen in the fires were Jon and not Stannis, and now to make amends, she is sacrificing herself to bring him back.

[KingintheNorth4]

13 hours ago, Lord_Ravenstone said:

Not even. Riverlands, kingsmoot, Balon's death, the Greyjoys coming for Dany, parts of the Northern storyline, Varys' move to assassinate Kevan, blind Arya, Mercy chapter, the Tower of Joy , and parts of the Meereen storyline,

Ah, I forgot about some of those events. I guess it would be more accurate to say that after this season, we'll all be on pretty even ground.

[The Arthur Smith]

24 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

Regarding several unplaced scenes:

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The seeming frenzied stabbing older children possibly in KL: either killing Pycelle or Kevan? No idea when, but probably late in season, after Varys returns from Mereen, who's been said to take a ship from there.

 

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Probably mid-season since Kevan being kill off before Cersei's and Margaery's trial will fuel the doubt and bloodbath between 2 houses.

 

[sweetsunray]

17 minutes ago, WireEdge said:

I was going through the whole thread to see if anyone else had this thought. It was what I immediately thought. She isn't seducing anyone, she is preparing to sacrifice herself (my guess). Perhaps she realizes that all the things she had seen in the fires were Jon and not Stannis, and now to make amends, she is sacrificing herself to bring him back.

That's what I got from it too. Three possible scenario's for that

1) Davos intends to assassinate her like he wanted to in S3. This time she does not fight him, but bears her chest.

2) Davos prepared to do it per her request.

3) Resurrected Jon does it, but no idea why he would want to.

Personally, the first option seems to make the most sense to me at least based on how the show established Davos versus Mel, but "show" and "making sense" do not add up for me anymore. For all I know, Davos becomes a convert and believer, and Mel is the one who stops believing. :whoknows:

[Lord_Ravenstone]

11 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

That's what I got from it too. Three possible scenario's for that

1) Davos intends to assassinate her like he wanted to in S3. This time she does not fight him, but bears her chest.

2) Davos prepared to do it per her request.

3) Resurrected Jon does it, but no idea why he would want to.

Personally, the first option seems to make the most sense to me at least based on how the show established Davos versus Mel, but "show" and "making sense" do not add up for me anymore. For all I know, Davos becomes a convert and believer, and Mel is the one who stops believing. :whoknows:

Maybe she's going to sleep with Jon? That's the direction it seems to be going with Jon in the books anyways 

[Kevoncox]

Two quick points.

1) Not sure if anyone has said it but the armor of the King's guard probably changed from one dynasty to the next. Why would Robert, who hates Targs, keep his protectors in Targ armor. Once the war was over, the uniform was probably changed to what it is today. Hence the difference in armor.

2) Why does everyone assume that Mel needs to give up her life or Davos' life to raise Jon. Thoros did no such thing when he brought back Beric. He was able to bring him back without death and only via pray multiple times. The only time that a sacrific was needed was when Cat needed to be bring back. This tells me that Thoros can only bring back one person at a time. If he needs to bring someone else back, he has to release the other person and they die. Mel has no one else that she has brought back, so she is free to bring Jon back without sacrifice. Ghost is safe, Mel is safe, Davos is safe. 

[sweetsunray]

7 minutes ago, Kevoncox said:

Two quick points.

1) Not sure if anyone has said it but the armor of the King's guard probably changed from one dynasty to the next. Why would Robert, who hates Targs, keep his protectors in Targ armor. Once the war was over, the uniform was probably changed to what it is today. Hence the difference in armor.

2) Why does everyone assume that Mel needs to give up her life or Davos' life to raise Jon. Thoros did no such thing when he brought back Beric. He was able to bring him back without death and only via pray multiple times. The only time that a sacrific was needed was when Cat needed to be bring back. This tells me that Thoros can only bring back one person at a time. If he needs to bring someone else back, he has to release the other person and they die. Mel has no one else that she has brought back, so she is free to bring Jon back without sacrifice. Ghost is safe, Mel is safe, Davos is safe. 

1) I don't mind the Targ-dragon sign on the armor, but KG wear white, not black. KG tower is called the White Tower. The book that preserves their deed is called the White Book.

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And ToJ dream mentions white cloaks

2) I don't assume Mel needs to give up her life. But the non-lustful, but instead worried and frightened facial expression of Mel combined with opening the front of her dress reminds me of Nissa Nissa. (And I dislike "x will be y's Nissa Nissa in general when it comes up in book plot speculations).

As for Thoros: Thoros didn't resurrect Cat anyhow. He refused to do it. So, Beric passed the magic that kept him alive on to Cat. But cannoincally something must be sacrifficed for a resurrection... Only death can pay for life. This was true for Dany waking dragons from stone as well. Just a good bonfire without Drogo, MMD and Rhaego would not have done the trick.

[sweetsunray]

10 minutes ago, Lord_Ravenstone said:

Maybe she's going to sleep with Jon? That's the direction it seems to be going with Jon in the books anyways 

Looking frightened? Don't see the foreshadowing to argue that Mel will sleep with Jon in the books "anyways".

[Bluetiger]

Two quick points.

1) Not sure if anyone has said it but the armor of the King's guard probably changed from one dynasty to the next. Why would Robert, who hates Targs, keep his protectors in Targ armor. Once the war was over, the uniform was probably changed to what it is today. Hence the difference in armor.

Or:

- they think that viewers won't understand that those men aren't the same Kingsguards as in current KG

- they'll give each KG personalised armor with some regerence to their own houses so the viewer will know who is who during fight

- the KG abandoned their duty to the king so they wear normal armors with Rhaegar's sigil and Targaryen decorations. So Gerold Hightower will have normal KG armor (Aerys sent him to find Rhaegar so he still keeps his vow) but Whent and Dayne won't as they are deserters.

In all GoT History and Lore episodes Targaryen KGs have the same armor as Robert's... Barristan, Lewyn, Arryk Cargyll, Dragonknight, Dunk and Criston Cole. The videos aren't show canon though.

[The Arthur Smith]

10 minutes ago, Kevoncox said:

2) Why does everyone assume that Mel needs to give up her life or Davos' life to raise Jon. Thoros did no such thing when he brought back Beric. He was able to bring him back without death and only via pray multiple times. The only time that a sacrific was needed was when Cat needed to be bring back. This tells me that Thoros can only bring back one person at a time. If he needs to bring someone else back, he has to release the other person and they die. Mel has no one else that she has brought back, so she is free to bring Jon back without sacrifice. Ghost is safe, Mel is safe, Davos is safe. 

Mel may let Davos kill her for what she did with Stannis and Shireen. 

1 minute ago, sweetsunray said:

Looking frightened? Don't see the foreshadowing to argue that Mel will sleep with Jon in the books "anyways".

But Jon love red-headed women. And this is the perfect opportunity for Mel to make shadow babies.

Jk. But i'm serious on the former. Don't forget that Jon will be a darker character, he might as well bone Mel just because his love for red headed women.

[briantw]

7 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

1) I don't mind the Targ-dragon sign on the armor, but KG wear white, not black. KG tower is called the White Tower. The book that preserves their deed is called the White Book.

All in all this seems kind of like an inconsequential detail.  Yeah, I know it somewhat goes against the books, but it's a costume design decision more than anything, and black was a color of House Targaryen.