BloodRider Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Well, apparently even being a cis white male cop doesn't protect you from white supremacists with a grievance. It does give you a leg up tho. http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/scott-michael-greene-des-moines-urbandale-iowa-police-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-pictures-facebook-motive-military-criminal-record/ I mean, he's just a guy with mental issues. It sure as fuck isn't a cultural thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Obama having his say :"I do think that there is a norm that when there are investigations, we don't operate on innuendo, we don't operate on incomplete information, we don't operate on leaks," Obama said."http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/02/obama-critical-fbi-leaks-and-innuendo-clinton-investigation/93167728/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Amazing how after taking off a couple weeks, so many pollsters that aren't partisan GOP outfits are now all of a sudden dropping polls today. Q-polls is the latest. OH: Trump 46, Clinton 41 PA: Clinton 48, Trump 43 NC: Clinton 47, Trump 44 FL: Clinton 46, Trump 45 Shame about Ohio, but otherwise those are all almost exactly where I would've guessed the states stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mexal said: Jesus. Good for her, takes a ton of strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Damn, I'm already feeling so terrible for her because I just know she will be mercilessly harassed within minutes of revealing herself. I'm also curious if someone in the HRC campaign convinced her to do this and if they are providing the necessary supports for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'm curious, how are Abedin's emails even admissible in the investigation, given that they were obtained prior to the FBI receiving a warrant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The case against trump hinges on Epstein using witnesses to observe rich men statutorily raping underage girls and thus Epstein then was able to blackmail them and maintain a book of blackmail victims. her holding a press conference and forcing the media to cover what they've studiously ignored terrifies me because Bill Clinton is a known Epstein confederate. Basically if the media covers it trump just has to allege that bill Clinton also raped underage girls Epstein recruited for his blackmail schemes. Doesn't have to be true just has to sound true and trump and the media will happily shift focus to bill Clinton for the entire final news cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: I'm curious, how are Abedin's emails even admissible in the investigation, given that they were obtained prior to the FBI receiving a warrant? They got a new warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: I'm curious, how are Abedin's emails even admissible in the investigation, given that they were obtained prior to the FBI receiving a warrant? The existence of them was determined. They were not accessed until they got the warrant. As far as I can tell it's perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: I'm curious, how are Abedin's emails even admissible in the investigation, given that they were obtained prior to the FBI receiving a warrant? They had a warrant to search the device as part of Weiner's investigation. When doing so, they stumbled upon Abedin's emails, then went and got a warrant for those too. It's not the FBI's fault that there is evidence for multiple investigations in close proximity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, lokisnow said: The case against trump hinges on Epstein using witnesses to observe rich men statutorily raping underage girls and thus Epstein then was able to blackmail them and maintain a book of blackmail victims. her holding a press conference and forcing the media to cover what they've studiously ignored terrifies me because Bill Clinton is a known Epstein confederate. Basically if the media covers it trump just has to allege that bill Clinton also raped underage girls Epstein recruited for his blackmail schemes. Doesn't have to be true just has to sound true and trump and the media will happily shift focus to bill Clinton for the entire final news cycle. This is possibly true but in this case, Jane Doe has the woman who procured these women and witnessed the act. We'll see what the media does since they've more or less ignored this case the entire election cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mexal said: We'll see what the media does since they've more or less ignored this case the entire election cycle. It's looks way too much like an obvious fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Altherion said: It's looks way too much like an obvious fabrication. Maybe but she has a witness who signed an affidavit that what Jane Doe claimed was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kalbear said: The existence of them was determined. They were not accessed until they got the warrant. As far as I can tell it's perfectly fine. I'm curious. How did they know to look there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Lady in Training said: I'm curious. How did they know to look there? They didn't know to look there at all. They had all of Weiner and Abedin's devices and were looking for any evidence regarding his sexting a 15-year old girl, and found emails on Weiner's laptop that someone thought might be relevant. Abedin herself was surprised by it. I doubt it was anything more than 'hey, check out these email subjects or to/from - might be relevant to the Clinton case'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Altherion said: It's looks way too much like an obvious fabrication. Thanks for perpetuating rape culture and the misogynistic undertones that women constantly lie about rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altherion Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Crazy Cat Lady in Training said: I'm curious. How did they know to look there? Abedin is Weiner's (estranged) wife. They weren't looking for her emails at all, they were looking for his. 2 minutes ago, Mexal said: Maybe but she has a witness who signed an affidavit that what Jane Doe claimed was true. And they sat on this information more than 20 years and only came out with it when it was important to a presidential election? Stranger things have happened, but it's just not plausible. With the amount of money floating around such elections, one can pay a dozen people to make any completely unverifiable claims one wants for less than a rounding error on the total budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Blade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Altherion said: Abedin is Weiner's (estranged) wife. They weren't looking for her emails at all, they were looking for his. And they sat on this information more than 20 years and only came out with it when it was important to a presidential election? Stranger things have happened, but it's just not plausible. With the amount of money floating around such elections, one can pay a dozen people to make any completely unverifiable claims one wants for less than a rounding error on the total budget. More perpetuating rape culture. You should look up the words sexist and misogynist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Altherion said: And they sat on this information more than 20 years and only came out with it when it was important to a presidential election? Stranger things have happened, but it's just not plausible. With the amount of money floating around such elections, one can pay a dozen people to make any completely unverifiable claims one wants for less than a rounding error on the total budget. I can't think of any reason that they would sit on allegations against a misogynist, thin-skinned, capricious, "libel bully" (per the American Bar Association). Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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