Rippounet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said: Just to clarify. You are, I assume, talking about representatives, or political figures, not voters. Uh... I was thinking of neo-nazis on the one hand, and Ramsay Bolton on the other. Ooops, I get the Godwin point for this one, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, GAROVORKIN said: No Darth , this thread has not passed the Godwin Threshold just yet Wanna go Full Adolf? I'll be your Eva Braun if it means you take the coward's way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Wanna go Full Adolf? I'll be your Eva Braun if it means you take the coward's way out. Godwin would be so proud . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Let's Get Kraken said: Ahh, I gotcha. I think I mixed up what you were saying, carry on. The real problem is when we start thinking that Roose is a good alternative because of comparison by degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Or that Tywin did nothing wrong because he was simply protecting his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Do we need to bring in the people from the Heresy thread upstairs to explain how the Others are seriously misunderstood creatures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: The real problem is when we start thinking that Roose is a good alternative because of comparison by degrees. I was going to vote for Cersei..... but her private raven flock!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: I was going to vote for Cersei..... but her private raven flock!!!! *slow clap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Seriously though I mean, how is this a question? The right(in America) supports racists, actual Nazis, pedophiles, mocks survivors of school shootings, plus Alex Jones. We don't need to demonize them if they act like actual demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redriver Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Corvinus said: Do we need to bring in the people from the Heresy thread upstairs to explain how the Others are seriously misunderstood creatures? Did somebody call?Ah, the Others.I know how it ends-they all live happily ever after. Organic thread OP.Hey, just go with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAROVORKIN Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 This one has long gone off the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Rippounet said: Or that Tywin did nothing wrong because he was simply protecting his house. The ends justify any means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Tribalism. Which is worse when there are only 2 tribes (political parties) to which to belong. Is this really any different (except by degrees and collateral damage) to DC vs Marvel, Coke vs Pepsi, Xbox vs Playstation vs Nintendo (3 in this case), console vs PC, Betamax vs VHS, Mac vs PC, iPhone vs Android, Greeks vs Trojans, Star Wars vs itself, my football/basketball/hockey/baseball team vs every other team, my religion vs every other religion? It's all the same bloody us vs them mentality that has beset human relationships since forever. What makes the political situation noteworthy is that every 2 years (in the USA) you have people out there trying to convince people to vote for them, and some time back it was discovered that talking shit about your opponent is more effective at getting you elected than telling the voters how great and suitable you are. So once negative campaigning was confirmed as an effective approach this pretty much guaranteed an increasingly toxic political environment. I think it is worse int he USA only because you are having elections so often that at any given moment someone is spewing bile about their political opponent at a local, state or national level. So there's never any escaping from the poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Coke vs Pepsi, They both suck. Dr. Pepper 4 LIFE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Yes, fighting against people who thought the Holocaust didn;t go far enough is JUST LIKE THE SODA WARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Yes, fighting against people who thought the Holocaust didn;t go far enough is JUST LIKE THE SODA WARS. No. But is everyone who sees themselves the slightest bit right of center the equivalent of a neo-nazi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, The Anti-Targ said: Tribalism. Which is worse when there are only 2 tribes (political parties) to which to belong. Is this really any different (except by degrees and collateral damage) to DC vs Marvel, Coke vs Pepsi, Xbox vs Playstation vs Nintendo (3 in this case), console vs PC, Betamax vs VHS, Mac vs PC, iPhone vs Android, Greeks vs Trojans, Star Wars vs itself, my football/basketball/hockey/baseball team vs every other team, my religion vs every other religion? It's all the same bloody us vs them mentality that has beset human relationships since forever. What makes the political situation noteworthy is that every 2 years (in the USA) you have people out there trying to convince people to vote for them, and some time back it was discovered that talking shit about your opponent is more effective at getting you elected than telling the voters how great and suitable you are. So once negative campaigning was confirmed as an effective approach this pretty much guaranteed an increasingly toxic political environment. I think it is worse int he USA only because you are having elections so often that at any given moment someone is spewing bile about their political opponent at a local, state or national level. So there's never any escaping from the poison. Negative campaigning is usually more about getting the other side's voters to stay home then getting your own base excited. And blaming this shit on Tribalism is just completely bullshit people throw out to make themselves feel better then others and above the fray. When one side is literally endorsing known child molesters I think we can safely say that demonization is legitimate. What's next, are we gonna both sides people who don't like Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: No. But is everyone who sees themselves the slightest bit right of center the equivalent of a neo-nazi? Depends if they are Republicans or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Shryke said: Depends if they are Republicans or not. There are plenty of people who are right of center who have long since abandoned the Republican party. Perhaps that is what Garovorkin was driving at, “political right” and “Republican” are not coextensive terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Shryke said: Negative campaigning is usually more about getting the other side's voters to stay home then getting your own base excited. And blaming this shit on Tribalism is just completely bullshit people throw out to make themselves feel better then others and above the fray. When one side is literally endorsing known child molesters I think we can safely say that demonization is legitimate. What's next, are we gonna both sides people who don't like Hitler? I was just thinking we need a topic "Why do people hate Hitler?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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