Jaxom 1974 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Winter Soldier Black Panther Infinity War Ragnarok Avengers Spider-Man Iron Man Civil War Captain America Ant Man Doctor Strange Ant Man and the Wasp Guardians 1 Ultron Guardians 2 Iron Man 2 Iron Man 3 Thor Dark World Hulk Really, it's a pretty subjective topic...but who the hell could ever put Civil War tops...as good as it is, it still pales to at least 5 or 6 others...but again, it's a highly subjective topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Yeah a really subjective list since we all have our own opinions and that's all they are. These are my top ones based on the fact I have or will watch them multiple times, movies once, then home more than once. Top Tier - Infinity War, Winter Soldier, Iron Man, Avengers, Guardians Vol 1 These I don't have an urge to watch more than once at home Tier Two - Civil War, Ant Man, Black Panther, Thor, Spider Man, Guardians 2, Capt America, Ragnorak, Doctor Strange. As of right now Captain Marvel goes in this group for me, higher than many in this tier. The rest - Ant Man and Wasp, Age of Ultron, Iron Man 2-3, Thor Dark world, Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ah yes, I just remembered I'm the only one here who loves Ultron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 If the metric was the whole desert island thing and you could only have one MCU movie, it would be Thor Ragnarok. and if it was 2 movies probably Thor Ragnarok and GOTG. They are the funnest movies, and if I'm limited I want the movies that are gonna give me a laugh. Doesn't mean I think they're the best over all. Though in the case of Thor I would rate it among my top 3 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Heartofice said: Have online trolls ever really had any serious effect on a movies box office? I think Fem Ghostbusters and Solo were harmed. I don't think they would have necessarily done well. But I think they did worse than they would have if not for the pre-release hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, The Anti-Targ said: I think Fem Ghostbusters and Solo were harmed. I don't think they would have necessarily done well. But I think they did worse than they would have if not for the pre-release hate. I don't know much about GB but someone ran some numbers on Solo and it was pretty obvious they had no effect. A lot of internet backlash/drama on these things are generally unknown to the movie going public at large. Anyway, for me it basically goes Winter Soldier all over MCU films Thor 2 Ranking the rest is hard, but if I had to pick a #2 I'd probably go with Avengers 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: I don't know much about GB but someone ran some numbers on Solo and it was pretty obvious they had no effect. A lot of internet backlash/drama on these things are generally unknown to the movie going public at large. Anyway, for me it basically goes Winter Soldier all over MCU films Thor 2 Ranking the rest is hard, but if I had to pick a #2 I'd probably go with Avengers 1. I think they should run those Solo numbers again. Based on the quality of the movie and the franchise it's in, it should have made considerably more simply because of the momentum of the name. Though I also think the dog piling on TLJ for being just a rubbish movie (as well as the political agenda reasons) had an effect too. I liked Solo waaaaay more than TLJ so I feel like it deserved to earn much more money than it did. Based on the movie alone I feel like TLJ only deserved Solo-like numbers. But because of the political BS I'm OK with it having cracked $1Bn. I just wish it was a movie I could get behind as a worthy cinematic experience. Whereas I like Captain Marvel, which means I'm doubly pleased that it's box office numbers are giving MRA trolls a poke in the eye. Though I hear the MRAs are trying to hit back by claiming Disney bought up a whole bunch of tickets. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Nah even if you take every single troll/what not the combined ticket sales of them all would barely make a dent. Also there are plenty of movies in established franchises that are both great and sequels to money makers that don't do well. Not to mention the marketing for Solo was crap, but I digress. And yeah I'm a terrible person but I'm enjoying the hell out of the incels losing their minds of CA's box office. There was one guy making 2-3 videos A DAY about how it was going to bomb who is just losing his mind right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Nah even if you take every single troll/what not the combined ticket sales of them all would barely make a dent. Also there are plenty of movies in established franchises that are both great and sequels to money makers that don't do well. Not to mention the marketing for Solo was crap, but I digress. And yeah I'm a terrible person but I'm enjoying the hell out of the incels losing their minds of CA's box office. There was one guy making 2-3 videos A DAY about how it was going to bomb who is just losing his mind right now. I don't think the trolls not going had an effect or ever would because they are such a low number. And some will even secretly go to hate-watch, and then come away with a guilty pleasure of having not hated the movie as much as they wanted to. But they would never say that in public. But the negativity put more people off, IMO, just because, people were unsure about it to start with. @bold I'm not too sure about that. Don't do AS well perhaps. But if they are great movies and get good reviews they will still do objectively well compared to its predecessor. Solo did objectively poorly as both a Star Wars movie and as return on investment. I would have laughed alongside you mentioning incels not too long ago. But I'm taking that word out of my vocabulary for the purposes of poking fun at people. I've come to the conclusion that incels aren't simply losers, they actually have a mental illness and I don't want to poke fun at mental illness. And it's potentially a mental illness that could be a danger to other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Oh I don't want to derail too much but their have been at least two and I think three mass killings up in Canada carried out by incels, and shit, I forgot Elliot Rodgers, so that's 4 of the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Darth Richard II said: Ah yes, I just remembered I'm the only one here who loves Ultron. It's certainly not the stank-pit that some say it is (IMO) but then my opinion of it drastically improved after watching it a second time. I didn't really care for it the first time I saw it. That said, here's my ranking, if anyone cares... The Winter Soldier Infinity War Civil War Guardians Vol 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Avengers Iron Man Thor: Ragnarok Black Panther Guardians Doctor Strange Iron Man 3 Age of Ultron Ant-Man Thor Captain America Iron Man 2 Ant-Man & The Wasp Incredible Hulk Thor: The Dark World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Oh I don't want to derail too much but their have been at least two and I think three mass killings up in Canada carried out by incels, and shit, I forgot Elliot Rodgers, so that's 4 of the top of my head. Exactly, a potentially dangerous mental illness. The psychology / psychiatry community should really be thinking about classifying it as a mental illness complex of some sort. Hell, Jack the Ripper might have been patient zero. Best say something about the MCU...errr...people keep saying you can skip Captain Marvel and still be fine for Endgame. I would tend to disagree. Captain Marvel is almost certain to play a major role in Endgame, and if you come in cold with her, who she is and what she does and how powerful she is will probably not sit too well. I guess you can watch an in-depth spoiler review of the movie. But arguably you can do that with any prequel of a movie - if you watch a spoiler review of Infinity War that will give you enough info to be able to watch Endgame. So you can skip every lead up movie in one sense. Captain Marvel is more skippable than Infinity War, but I wouldn't dismiss it as totally skippable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: But I'm taking that word out of my vocabulary for the purposes of poking fun Another reason not to use such lingo is ideally we should be dealing with people as they actually are, without redefining them to suit our whimsy using made up words that no longer strive for accuracy but name things in condemnation , which gives us permission to never again bother empathizing. There is no such thing as the alt right. It's something only the left talks about. Whatever an MRA is , or a incel, it probably doesn't define people fairly or honestly either. Or it labels way too many people as having real mental issues when the reality is most of them just disagree with you. Like how the entire Tea Party got run down because someone somewhere found some bad seeds and plastered them on the internet. As if the left isn't rife with bad seeds. You hear about them less is all, since the national media machine is trying to cover them up instead of expose them. When people insulate themselves with their own code language and get news only from sources guaranteed to reinforce their held prejudices (all cable news sources to be clear), it's no wonder they then eternally argue with the Others they've created, because nobody involved in such arguments is really addressing the other person, only yelling at the distortion of that person which exists solely in their own head. It's a recipe for keeping the divide going, not healing it. Captain Marvel avoided including any of this unhealthy divisive business. Thankfully. It's we lesser humans who fell victim to it. No reason to get so stirred up. Like two yards with chattering birds on the left, chattering birds on the right. No import. Only Noise. Hopefully, the lesson learned is to not give internet people control over your emotional state. Twitter doesn't influence jack. So there's no need to rush to cancel out anyone's supposed influence. A chance to exhale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Not sure and half awake but incels identify as such and actually have built quite a consistant, let’s say cult, out of the thing, with guides and faqs abd everythhng. It goes way deeper and is way worse then you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Well I am so out of it I just googled incel to see what the hell you guys are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 It’s hard to say what effect trolls have on the box office of any movie, but my guess is that it’s absolutely tiny. Just because some people have louder voices and shout a lot doesn’t mean they represent most people. The internet tends to eat itself and thinks that everyone sees the same stuff as them. I know I didn’t know anything about the Brie ‘white men’ stuff until it was mentioned here. As for incels, yes they are a tiny but very sad part of the internet , guys almost certainly with mental issues and disorders who have decided the dating game works against them and so have avowed to stay out of it altogether. It leads to some quite angry men complaining about the way the world works to each other. But they are tiny and insignificant really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The broflakes are now claiming CA is only doing well due to the big marketing campaign and targeting demographics. Because no film has tried marketing before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Really, it's a pretty subjective topic...but who the hell could ever put Civil War tops...as good as it is, it still pales to at least 5 or 6 others...but again, it's a highly subjective topic... Actually putting Civil War top was one of the few positions I’m sure of. It has the best fight scenes, the best third act, it’s critical to the MCU but also a good movie in its own right, it has pretty much everyone in it and manages to provide an arc for a lot of them, and it has a genuinely debatable dilemma at its core. It’s the only one I don’t really have any caveats about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Civil War is excellent, I still prefer Winter Soldier but those plus Infinity War are on a different level to the other MCU movies 1 hour ago, Derfel Cadarn said: The broflakes are now claiming CA is only doing well due to the big marketing campaign and targeting demographics. Because no film has tried marketing before... Marvel has a licence to print money right now. Captain Marvel ties directly into Endgame as well so there was anticipation there. There is also no doubt that the marketing campaign was targeted around an issue making it an easier sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Anyway what I meant with my half awake post, was that incels probably identify as incels, so using it as an insult doesn't really work. There was a discussion thread about it in Gen Chat a while ago. Scary shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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