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Aside from Liverpool’s phenomenal consistency so far, this is one of the most competitive PL seasons in a very long time.  There isn’t a dominant top 4 or big 6, every club has managed some surprise victories punching above their weight, no-one else has been close to invincible, there has been a noticeable value to good coaching, a few injuries is enough to cause any club to struggle for a while, and the points differentials are narrow enough that the second half of the season could potentially see huge changes in table positions. 

It does look like the greater financial resources throughout the league have made it possible for smaller clubs to acquire more competitive talent.  It doesn’t entirely erase the gap, but it gives them more of a chance. 

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A winger with 100% passing accuracy! Does anyone actually thing that's a good thing, given what it indicates?

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Solskjaer has also confirmed that McTominay has suffered ligament damage and is likely to be out for 2 months or more. So that just leaves Matic and Fred as the only fit midfielders in the entire squad - season over, we'll be lucky to finish 6th. Doubtful we make any signings this month either but don't worry, I'm sure Woodward will brief his buddies in the media that he's looking for a DoF for the umpteenth time. 

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Bouremourh are so bad. Easily the worst team I’ve seen Liverpool play this year. And the highlights from today’s game were embarrassing. Eddie Howe used to be the guy pundits would throw out for potential top 6 job. I’d be surprised if they don’t get relegated 

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31 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said:

A winger with 100% passing accuracy! Does anyone actually thing that's a good thing, given what it indicates?

He scored the first goal, set up the second, hit the post and created 4 chances. I get it, you don’t rate what he did. I do. If he wasn’t on the pitch today, score may have been different. Arsenal does not have a better right winger or actually any other player on the squad that takes players on at all.

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1 hour ago, Mark Antony said:

Bouremourh are so bad. Easily the worst team I’ve seen Liverpool play this year. And the highlights from today’s game were embarrassing. Eddie Howe used to be the guy pundits would throw out for potential top 6 job. I’d be surprised if they don’t get relegated 

They have been in free fall, and they look like a push-over for almost anyone lately.  Granted, they have had a lot of players out injured, but they haven’t yet shown any signs of adapting to that.  And it doesn’t help that they paid a large fee to bring in Solanke as their back-up striker, although the free loan of Harry Wilson has definitely helped. Callum Wilson is off form, with no good alternate available while the likes of King, Fraser and Brooks have been injured.  But aside from Ake, they have a good amount of healthy MFs and defenders. 

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Has Macguire been really bad? Feel like he's getting pillared today. He was kinda poor yesterday, but tbf a lot of the united team were poor.

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He's been our best CB this season and second to Wan Bissaka as our best defender overall. He gets pillared because of the transfer fee United paid - there's no doubt we overpaid by 15-20 million even with English tax included. He never was and never will be in the same class as Van Dijk but the many twitter twat United fans think that he should have magically transformed into VVD 2.0 as soon as United paid 80 million for him. 

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16 hours ago, Consigliere said:

Solskjaer won't do this but I hope he puts out the reserves in the FA Cup and League Cup  - it would be better if we get knocked out because the squad isn't deep enough in midfield and up front to cope with four competitions especially now with us having Matic and Fred as the only fit midfielders in the entire squad.

Nah, I definitely can't see him playing the reserves in a cup semi-final against Manchester City. (not to mention the cups are our only shot at winning a trophy)

I agree with the point about the squad depth, though.

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5 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said:

Nah, I definitely can't see him playing the reserves in a cup semi-final against Manchester City. (not to mention the cups are our only shot at winning a trophy)

I agree with the point about the squad depth, though.

Yeah, that's why I prefaced that with "Solskjaer won't do this". He's just not very good at managing his squad. Klopp had a go in the cups when he first joined but was smart enough to realise that he didn't quite have the depth in his first two full seasons at the club and so sent out the reserves in the league cup and fa cup, got knocked out early which eased the fixture congestion and allowed him to concentrate his main squad on finishing in the top 4.

Solskjaer otoh has stretched the squad to breaking point in the hopes of winning a domestic cup that does nothing to help us in the long run. The league was priority #1 followed by the Europa league as those are the two routes to CL football. The two domestic cups should have been for the reserves to play in since we don't quite have the depth to compete in four competitions. 

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Liverpool: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Keita, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

Subs: Adrian, Milner, Lallana, Origi, Phillips, Jones, Elliott.

Looks good.:cheers:

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My point was less about his ablity as a manager that about the fact that when you play Manchester City on a cup semi-final, you basically don't play the reserve, independently of whether your squad is thin or whether you are a good manager.

But yeah, it became less relevant when our squad is so flat that playing these games actually put our league campaign, thus our season, in danger.

And I actually think OGS wants to emulate Klopp's tenure. Refreshing the squad by margin, rather than by a big single turn-over. Spending big in the areas where the team blatantly lacks, and less where youth are else can be used. Developing the young, talented players, especially in attack, while using more medium-to-aged players with high workrate, in midfield.

That's partly the Klopp schedule, and I believe Ole wants to do that. Whether he'll be given time remains to be seen. But perhaps some people should remember that Klopp did struggle in his first seasons, and was put into doubt at some point.

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34 minutes ago, AncalagonTheBlack said:

Liverpool: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Keita, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

Subs: Adrian, Milner, Lallana, Origi, Phillips, Jones, Elliott.

Looks good.:cheers:

Keita's now out, ffs. He looks good when he plays but he's no use to anyone if he's going to miss half of every season.

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1 minute ago, Soylent Brown said:

Keita's now out, ffs. He looks good when he plays but he's no use to anyone if he's going to miss half of every season.

What?? When did this happen?

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Just now, Soylent Brown said:

Injured during the warm-up, I believe. Milner starts instead.

FFS, why can't all these young lads be more rough and tough hard men like Milner. :rolleyes:

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26 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said:

That's partly the Klopp schedule, and I believe Ole wants to do that. Whether he'll be given time remains to be seen. But perhaps some people should remember that Klopp did struggle in his first seasons, and was put into doubt at some point.


I'm not as completely down on Solskjaer as Consigliere is, I think he's done some good work integrating the signings he did make and some youngsters, and we have slooowly improved how we handle games against teams lying deeper, so I'd like to at least see what he does in this window, but there's very little comparison to be made between him and Klopp. He's not bad at the initial setup and getting better but his tactical adjustments suck and he takes too long to commit to decisions.

Also I don't know if it's Solskjaer or Phelan or who the fuck making the transfer decisions but we really need to get someone less Brexit doing the scouting. If the rumours are to be believed (and although obviously we don't get everyone we're linked with the chatter abbut the chatter in summer was about largely British players and that's what we got) it's pitiful how uninterested we seem to be in bringing in younger players from abroad. Like there's nothing wrong with homegrown and all three are good players but if we're focusing on Sean Longstaff- and Emre fucking Can coz he's played here before- instead of young stars from France or Germany as our targets something's gone badly badly wrong.

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Nice to have an early goal from Salah.  I hope Keita isn’t too badly injured.  The squad looks really, really thin again.  It’s amazing that we’re still relying on Henderson, Gini and Milner so much just because they don’t get injuries.  All of our MF back-ups like Lallana, Keita, Ox and Shaqiri have been so unreliable.  At least Fabinho seems to very robust aside from one unlucky ankle sprain. 

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