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Debunking The Witcher Plagiarism

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I did my research. Witcher isn’t plagiarism but a remix of Elric, and Solomon Kane.

Here are the differences:

1). Geralt is a mutant. It is due to experimentation that he is a albino.He wasn’t born Albino. His mother abandoned him. 

2). Geralt is a monster slayer for hire. The Witcher is a profession.The Witcher covers assassination, tracking, bounty hunting, etc...

3). The potions help him fight monsters. The Witcher doesn’t need to survive, but amps his stats. Think of as a super soldier formula. Elric needs potions and herbs because of his albinism. Geralt doesn’t need the potion, because of albinism.

4). Elric’s entire decision for being a mercenary is because of Stormbringer. Geralt doesn’t have a evil sapient sword that constantly needs feeding.

5). Elric is a anti-villain at the beginning. Working towards redemption. Elric has done horrible things.

6). The Witcher is a organization that creates superhuman warriors for monster slaying.

7). Geralt uses gadgets, and is more like Batman. 

The Witcher is a remix.

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I thought the plagiarism thing died in a hilarious end.

Michael Moorcock: Sapkowski stole from me! He named his character the White Wolf and he's a wizard/swordsman!

Sapkowski: Oh, yeah, I was inspired by Moorcock and Ursula Gein. Love both of them.

So Moorcock just looks like an ass.

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7 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said:

I thought the plagiarism thing died in a hilarious end.

Michael Moorcock: Sapkowski stole from me! He named his character the White Wolf and he's a wizard/swordsman!

Sapkowski: Oh, yeah, I was inspired by Moorcock and Ursula Gein. Love both of them.

So Moorcock just looks like an ass.

Their are youtubers push this notion. They focus on the similarities, and not the differences. Plagiarism is basically with little to no differences. Example will be Batman and Black Bat.

This isn’t like Bill Finger plagiarizing Shadow Of Peril, and Black Bat. Bill Finger threatens to sue the creator Black Bat for plagiarism. Black Bat came before Batman.

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18 hours ago, BloodyJollyRoger said:

7). Geralt...is more like Batman. 

Is any information beyond this really needed?

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Wait a second. I thought this thread was started because of prior conversations here. Now I Google and, indeed, Moorcock complained in 2008 when he saw someone posting about the first Witcher game in that context. Where was Sapkowsi's response? Sounds hilarious.

 

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1 hour ago, Ran said:

Wait a second. I thought this thread was started because of prior conversations here. Now I Google and, indeed, Moorcock complained in 2008 when he saw someone posting about the first Witcher game in that context. Where was Sapkowsi's response? Sounds hilarious.

 

It is because more of many YouTube users accuse The Witcher of Plagiarism. 

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Moorcock pitching a hissy because someone said a character was ripping him off, without actually checking the strength of the resemblance or anything about The Witcher before crying about it like the massive baby he obviously is, is hilarious to me.

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To be fair, he seemed focused on trademarks, and I guess had trademarked "The White Wolf" in some context at some point.

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6 hours ago, polishgenius said:

Moorcock pitching a hissy because someone said a character was ripping him off, without actually checking the strength of the resemblance or anything about The Witcher before crying about it like the massive baby he obviously is, is hilarious to me.

A lot of writers stole his work. It is understandable.

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2 hours ago, BloodyJollyRoger said:

A lot of writers stole his work. It is understandable.

Did they do this as a group or were these separate incidents?

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1 hour ago, larrytheimp said:

Did they do this as a group or were these separate incidents?

They have a plagiarisers union. 

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 Plagiarism is basically with little to no differences. 

so, this is 100% false. plagiarism is using materials from someone else without attribution--though it is not a matter of law, but usually a part of the ethical code of whichever institution is at stake (school, publisher, whatever).

similarly, for copyright infringement--

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Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner as provided by sections 106 through 122 [...] is an infringer of the copyright or right of the author.

17 U.S.C. § 501(a).

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To establish infringement, two elements must be proven: (1) ownership of a valid copyright, and (2) copying of constituent elements of the work that are original.

feist publ’ns, inc. v. rural tel. serv. co., 499 U.S. 340, 361 (1991).

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11 hours ago, sologdin said:

so, this is 100% false. plagiarism is using materials from someone else without attribution--though it is not a matter of law, but usually a part of the ethical code of whichever institution is at stake (school, publisher, whatever).

similarly, for copyright infringement--

17 U.S.C. § 501(a).

feist publ’ns, inc. v. rural tel. serv. co., 499 U.S. 340, 361 (1991).

We all know what plagiarism is. Communists are excellent plagiarists. 

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targs, it's fair to say that marxist doctrine is not impressed with intellectual property. that does not mean that plagiarism would be acceptable interpersonally or institutionally.  on the contrary, we see authors taking personal responsibility for their signatures as a matter of left doctrine and in actually existing socialism's praxis. and when i was a university instructor, i enforced educational plagiarism rules as a matter of pedagogical ethics--even while submitting it to critique as untenable theoretically.  call it an enlightened false consciousness in the deliberate re-enactment of manifestly unreasonable discursive practices.

ETA--

i just noticed that targs is BJR.  BJR, what you doing with the sneaky name change? you can hardly say that "we all know what plagiarism is" when you in fact did not know what it is upthread.

Edited by sologdin

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