Odej Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Quote According to George R. R. Martin, Beric is no longer a living being after his first death; his heart does not beat and blood does not flow through his veins. In Martin's own words, Beric is "a wight animated by fire instead of by ice." So, it's fair to think that if Melisandre ressurrect Jon by R'hllor's power just like Thoros of Myr did to Beric, Jon will be in the same condition. He will be a wight animated by fire with no blood flowing through his veins. So how can he get a erection and have sex with Dany, Sansa, Val or anybody? Will be this the doom of Jonerys? Edited January 8 by Odej Corvo the Crow, Raven Princling, Lord Lannister and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'm a bit busy laughing to take it seriously, begging your pardons. Lilac & Gooseberries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just another reason to believe Jon isn't actually dead. Curled Finger and Morte 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I think it's on Alice Cooper's Welcome To My Nightmare lp. Go listen to Cold Ethel. Aejohn the Conqueroo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord of the Crossing Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, Odej said: So, it's fair to think that if Melisandre ressurrect Jon by R'hllor's power just like Thorys of Myr did to Beric, Jon will be in the same condition. He will be a wight animated by fire with no blood flowing through his veins. So how can he get a erection and have sex with Dany, Sansa, Val or anybody? Will be this the doom of Jonerys? Unbelievable! Jon swore an oath to not have children. He may take that one seriously. He won't reproduce as a human but it is very possible for him to mate with Arya after they have turned to direwolves. I am not doubting a Ghost and Nymeria mating and producing wolf cubs. It will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odej Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: I'm a bit busy laughing to take it seriously, begging your pardons. I could just write "capable of have children" but Edited January 8 by Odej Jaenara Belarys and EggBlue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Odej said: I could just write "capable of have children" but Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odej Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 31 minutes ago, Nathan Stark said: Just another reason to believe Jon isn't actually dead. What's your theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) I don't know. When you're dead the blood pools in your extremities and they tend to fall off. Or you go blind. It's one of the two. See Coldhands... Edited January 8 by LynnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, Odej said: What's your theory? I don't have a theory, I have an educated guess. We don't know the extent of Jon's wounds, so its a real possibility that Jon lost conciousness without dying. And there's George R. R. Martin's comment; "you think Jon's dead, do you?" That makes me think he isn't dead. Morte and TheNecromancerofMirkwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 well, Odej, we NEED him to be ... able! how else can we set him up with our gals? who will be left without him ?pervertston bear , drunkard gargoyle or lord of the bloody banquets? Jaenara Belarys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Nathan Stark said: I don't have a theory, I have an educated guess. We don't know the extent of Jon's wounds, so its a real possibility that Jon lost conciousness without dying. And there's George R. R. Martin's comment; "you think Jon's dead, do you?" That makes me think he isn't dead. Martin also famously said: "What is dead can never die." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Maybe its really about cocks in the end.. sigh.. EggBlue, TheNecromancerofMirkwood, BlackLightning and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odej Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, LynnS said: I don't know. When you're dead the blood pools in your extremities and they tend to fall off. Or you go blind. It's one of the two. See Coldhands... Yeah, I wonder if the blood pooled on his penis as well and turned black, just like his hands, since it's also an extremity. Poor man. Edited January 9 by Odej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odej Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nathan Stark said: I don't have a theory, I have an educated guess. We don't know the extent of Jon's wounds, so its a real possibility that Jon lost conciousness without dying. And there's George R. R. Martin's comment; "you think Jon's dead, do you?" That makes me think he isn't dead. He seems to lose consciousness the moment he was hit by the fourth time. He may have just passed out instead of dying, but we don't know if the blows stopped there. Hm, I don't know. To be honest, I think the possibility that he was only injured would be an act of cowardice on the part of the writer. Edited January 9 by Odej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Apoplexy said: cocks in the end Ha!…..life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Odej said: Yeah, I wonder if the blood pooled on his penis as well and turned black, just like his hands, since it's also an extremity. Poor man. Ben Plum ancestor with the six foot member! Edited January 9 by Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 41 minutes ago, Odej said: He seems to lose consciousness the moment he was hit by the fourth time. He may have just passed out instead of dying, but we don't know if the blows stopped there. Hm, I don't know. To be honest, I think the possibility that he was only injured would be an act of cowardice on the part of the writer. Why do you say its bad writing if Jon was just injured? Getting life threatening wounds, but surviving them seems just like a cliffhanger put in for dramatic effect and to keep the readers hooked. TheNecromancerofMirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, The Lord of the Crossing said: Unbelievable! Jon swore an oath to not have children. He may take that one seriously. He won't reproduce as a human but it is very possible for him to mate with Arya after they have turned to direwolves. I am not doubting a Ghost and Nymeria mating and producing wolf cubs. It will happen. Yuck! Aejohn the Conqueroo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger. Guess we never knew the true meaning of those words. Daeron the Daring, HoodedCrow, Odej and 7 others 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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