Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: E.T phone home? ding ding ding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Since it appears in only a single sentence, I'm pretty sure I just pretended I never saw Kayakayanaya and just kept reading. If he'd used it more than once, then I would have been forced to confront the reality of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 19 hours ago, EggBlue said: are we sure "Kayakayanaya" wasn't initially a typing error ? Noooooooooooo, it wasasasasasassasas notttttt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 17 hours ago, Aebram said: Here's a monster from real-life Massachusetts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Chaubunagungamaug But you did ask about the "worst," not the "longest." So I think I have to vote for "Shitmouth." Shitmouth is the BEST name in ASOIAF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrosh Lannister Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 11 hours ago, sifth said: I mean it terms of something sounding stupid in my head, Yi Ti comes pretty close to being the dumbest name GRRM has come up with. Yi Ti phone home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrosh Lannister Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 22 hours ago, Aebram said: Here's a monster from real-life Massachusetts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Chaubunagungamaug But you did ask about the "worst," not the "longest." So I think I have to vote for "Shitmouth." Kayakayanaya feels so misplaced amongst bayasabhad and samyriana. Imagine Kings Landing, Old Town and Yokohama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Tyrosh Lannister said: Kayakayanaya feels so misplaced amongst bayasabhad and samyriana. Imagine Kings Landing, Old Town and Yokohama For Westeros, Martin definitely likes concrete adjective/noun pairs - Highgarden, Bitterbridge, White Harbor, etc. He missed his chance at introducing some kind of Essos style name, though. The Orphans of the Greenblood have a major settlement in Dorne. Did they give it a Rhoynar name? No. It's called Planky Town, the silliest place name in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Elmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: Elmar No, Elmo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Phylum of Alexandria said: No, Elmo... I wonder how HoTD will deal with the muppet names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: I wonder how HoTD will deal with the muppet names. Ideally, not at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 @Takiedevushkikakzvezdy @Phylum of Alexandria Too late. Episide 6 of HOTD mentions the Muppet Tullys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Too late. Episide 6 of HOTD mentions the Muppet Tullys. It's one thing if it's just a throwaway reference, but it can get awkward it they get a more prominent role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Phylum of Alexandria said: No, Elmo... Don’t you dare mock the Lads. They will be badass and comedy gold in HotD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daena the Defiant Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 It's a place name, and a mysteriously exotic one too - it actually has a lovely rhythm to is if you say it out oud. kay-YAK-uh-YAH-nye-UH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolett Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 11:10 AM, Tyrosh Lannister said: kayakayanaya? what the heck was GRRM thinking? Oh, I think GRRM's use of Kayakayanaya is quite deliberate, especially in its context as the name of a town that is home to fierce warrior women who live in a society that empowers the female while restricting and controlling male dominance. I'm familiar with the term Kayakaya. Where I come from, it refers to young girls who serve as load carriers in the traditional markets of cities. These Kayakaya girls are almost always victims of rural-urban migration. Many leave their rural homes hoping to improve their lives. They generally come from poor backgrounds, are uneducated and have no skills useful to city life. Once in the city, they are faced with the harsh reality of unemployment, no family support and are often exploited and subject to abuse, also sexual abuse. Most take up the menial task of carrying loads to eke out a living. This is no new phenomenon. Kayakaya girls have been known by that name for as long as I can remember. In fact, though "kayakaya" specifically refers to girls, it is also used as a derogatory term for persons of percieved low status. In my view, by naming that town of the Patrimony of Hrykoon Kayakayanaya, the author is hinting that the warrior women of that state have overcome a previous downtrodden, oppressed "Kayakaya" status (Kayakaya - nay (nay as in no)). Here's an article on Kayakaya Girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I honestly doubt GRRM is that well-versed on non-European matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: I honestly doubt GRRM is that well-versed on non-European matters. If you look closely the series doesn't line up that well with middle ages Europe either, in my view. Not to the same extent, but there are things like the age which noble people marry (much younger than average in middle ages Europe), lack of linguistic divide in the Seven Kingdoms, lack of legal system, the way lords treat peasants, lack of influence of religion on daily life, etc. Also Westeros is too big to really work in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Craving Peaches said: If you look closely the series doesn't line up that well with middle ages Europe either. Oh absolutely. GRRM's setting is a dialed up version of the popular perception of the Middle Ages. For God's sake, he made Prima Nocta an actual thing in Westeros! (Also, to oversimplify, people in the Middle Ages had better hygiene, more religious tolerance, and treated women better than their Renaissance and Early Modern descendants did. Furthermore, childbed fever only became a major killer once women stopped giving birth at home since the doctors would often come to the delivery room straight from dissecting corpses in the morgue.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: treated women better I've always fantasised about being 'The Lady of the Castle' and managing all the wages and staff while the husband is off fighting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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