Corvinus85 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) wrong post Edited January 30 by Corvinus85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said: The fall of Numenor is an important event in Middle Earth, Sauron became the priest of an evil cult in Numenor and he convinced the King to gain immortality by attacking Valinor and the Valar accused to be the ones that cursed the Men with death, actually Sauron wanted to get rid of Numenoreans that were too powerful so he would be free to take Middle Earth, then Eru Iluvatar destroyed Numenor. The destruction of Numenor is important, his first king was Elros , Elron brother and son of Earendil , who was the hero that killed Ancalagon the Black during the War of Wrath. After the event, Sauron was no longer able to change his form, he was a skilled shapeshifter who used his fair forms to seduce and deceive elves and men, he was known as Tar Mairon in Numenor and Annatar among the Elves, when Finrod was still alive he was able to turn himself into a werewolf, in fact Sauron generated the werewolves by inserting evil spirits into beasts. Sauron was not able to create stuff, just like his former Master, he was able to corrupt beings , that's why he needed the creativity of Celebrimbor, who was the grandson of Feanor, the most powerful Noldor that ever existed , so "the search for Sauron" has no sense , it's a product conceived by bad weiting and ignorance ^These wiki entries are "nice" to read, even if infused with incorrect assumptions and conclusions. fionwe1987 and IlyaP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said: he convinced the King to gain immortality by attacking Valinor and the Valar accused to be the ones that cursed the Men with death Which was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: ^These wiki entries are "nice" to read, even if infused with incorrect assumptions and conclusions. There is no wiki, I read Tolkien works , unlike Melkor, Sauron wanted to dominate life, especially the will of elves that he considered the most powerful beings , he was not able to create the three rings for the kings of elves , those were the most important rings he wished to take possession, so the conclusions are not incorrect at all , Sauron was no able to create something like that , just the Master Ring that is part of himself and his desire to dominate life Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said: There is no wiki, I read Tolkien works , unlike Melkor, Sauron wanted to dominate life, especially the will of elves that he considered the most powerful beings , he was not able to create the three rings for the kings of elves , those were the most important rings he wished to take possession, so the conclusions are not incorrect at all , Sauron was no able to create something like that , just the Master Ring that is part of himself and his desire to dominate life Sauron first went to Gil-Galad and Círdan, tried to woo them, but couldn't. They didn't know anything about the making of rings. If they would have been persuaded by him, his "gifts" would have been something else. a different conduit of corruption. But with the Elves of Eregion, it was jewelry. And making the Master Ring is making something, even if he poured his own essence into it. Plus Sauron was originally a Maia of Aulë, so he knew how to make things. And Melkor made things, too. It's not like the fortresses of Utumno and Angband built themselves. And he made the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Sounds like KingAerys_II could stand to go ask the Rings of Power writers a thing or two about Middle Earth history, he might learn something. baxus and fionwe1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Chat GPT, but swerve it to the right Zorral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It's just knowledge about best fantasy books ever written by the best fantasy writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 "knowledge" baxus and IlyaP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said: It's just knowledge about best fantasy books ever written by the best fantasy writer You haven't mentioned Terry Pratchett once. baxus, fionwe1987, IlyaP and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: ^These wiki entries are "nice" to read, even if infused with incorrect assumptions and conclusions. And the typos. Don't forget the typos. And weird spacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, KingAerys_II said: It's just knowledge about best fantasy books ever written by the best fantasy writer "It's knowledge of some of my favorite fantasy books ever by my favorite fantasy writer." Fixed it for you. Because art and taste is a subjective and personal experience and not a rigorous science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2024 at 2:15 AM, IlyaP said: **The Dungeons and Dragons direct-to-DVD movie sequels enter the chat.** Aw, the second movie is enjoyable schlock. It's far more D&D than anything in the first or third movies, but now that there's an actual decent D&D movie out I guess there's really no reason to defend it much anymore. But.... ehhhh I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Durckad said: Aw, the second movie is enjoyable schlock. It's far more D&D than anything in the first or third movies, but now that there's an actual decent D&D movie out I guess there's really no reason to defend it much anymore. But.... ehhhh I guess? And it has music composed by David Julyan, who scored The Prestige! It's a pretty okayish movie, though I enjoy the first D&D movie and the latest one more. But at least it didn't have Marlon Wayans doing that weird Wilhelm Scream of a schtick that he did way too often in D&D 1. So I'll give it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, IlyaP said: And it has music composed by David Julyan, who scored The Prestige! It's a pretty okayish movie, though I enjoy the first D&D movie and the latest one more. Fair enough. The second movie certainly doesn't have Jeremy Irons hucking all of the scenery into his Bag of Devouring, but the first is not a very good D&D movie at all. It's fun if you view it as a schlocky bit of generic fantasy, but D&D? There's really not all that much in it that's D&D. I do love me some terrible, 80's fantasy movie schlock but there's a lot of that out there and very little actual D&D-flavored fantasy schlock. Quote But at least it didn't have Marlon Wayans doing that weird Wilhelm Scream of a schtick that he did way too often in D&D 1. So I'll give it that. Was I supposed to cheer when he died? I feel like the movie was trying to tell me that was the wrong reaction. IlyaP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Durckad said: Fair enough. The second movie certainly doesn't have Jeremy Irons hucking all of the scenery into his Bag of Devouring, but the first is not a very good D&D movie at all. It's fun if you view it as a schlocky bit of generic fantasy, but D&D? There's really not all that much in it that's D&D. I kinda ignore it having anything to do with D&D and just roll with it as being a goofy, two-hour low-fantasy movie with an absolute knockout score from Justin Cain Burnett. 1 hour ago, Durckad said: I do love me some terrible, 80's fantasy movie schlock but there's a lot of that out there and very little actual D&D-flavored fantasy schlock. There was the cartoon, and that *dreadful* Tom Hanks movie, but the less said about that, the better, as both are honestly pretty awful and haven't aged very well. 1 hour ago, Durckad said: Was I supposed to cheer when he died? I feel like the movie was trying to tell me that was the wrong reaction. I think that was *definitely* the wrong reaction, you psycho! I kid, I kid! I really don't know WTF they were thinking with his character. Was there anyone out there who didn't find Snails' behaviour grating and annoying? I know they had the best of intentions, but ye gods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) It's not wrong to ask for a RoP remake, a tv series about Lotr, not a low quality fanfic to introduce American society in Middle Earth Edited January 31 by KingAerys_II Zorral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 American society? I'll take 'What are you talking about?' for $300, Alex. Corvinus85 and Zorral 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I'd say he's talking about racial and ethnic diversity among Elves and Dwarves. If not, I'm all out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) The strong indipendent woman that is actually weaker than the canonic character who has a family, a husband , a daughter and probably grandchildren too . The strong indipendent woman that is so alone she is obsessed to her brother that actually died thousands years before the Rings of Power Edited January 31 by KingAerys_II Zorral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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