polishgenius Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Because, re: comments in the old topic, United fans (and everyone else) can laugh at Chelsea. And I really hope this doesn't backfire on Thursday. Edited April 23 by polishgenius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Curious to see Villa can repeat their performance against City. That might just be the proverbial nail in the coffin for City winning this year again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Arsenal winning would be the least objectionable outcome. I'd still have City as marginal favourites for the title though purely because they've repeatedly proven their ability to hold their nerve in tight title races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 18 minutes ago, Consigliere said: Arsenal winning would be the least objectionable outcome. I'd still have City as marginal favourites for the title though purely because they've repeatedly proven their ability to hold their nerve in tight title races. To be fair Liverpool have hardly choked under klopp. They still picked up insane points in the run ins, just slightly fewer than city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Burnley and Sheffied United are going down, but will the FA's Rapid Justice Squad for Financial Impropriety's Negative Six Points be enough to push Everton out along with them? Hopefully they will escape the drop. David Squires cartoon in the Grauniad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 By the way I'm not sure how to feel about this thread title. But my life philosophy leans towards the it's better to laugh than cry mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: By the way I'm not sure how to feel about this thread title. If it's any consolation, the title is currently a loaded gun pointed at my own foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Being a football fan is a bit like pointing loaded weapons at yourself. I have no idea why I'm watching tonight. Machosists are pussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, ljkeane said: So I've been a bit wary of saying it, 'cause you think 'hey, City aren't as good this season' and then it comes together and they reel off 15 wins to end the year, but City have definitely dropped off a bit this season haven't they? I think they deliberately made themselves a bit worse at the traditional Pep style by getting Haaland in, who's a bit of a passenger in general play, in the pursuit of being better in the latter stages of the Champions League but when he scores 36 goals it probably balances itself out. If he only gets 20-25 goals I'm not quite sure it does. Add in they haven't really adequately replaced Gundogan or Mahrez (probably should have kept Palmer). Plus it looking like De Bruyne might be struggling to hit the same heights post injury at 32 and they're not quite what they were. The problem is even a not as good version of City are still clearly better than everyone other than Arsenal and Liverpool and you could still easily see them winning the remaining 9 games. btw to offer a response to this from the last thread: I agree, they aren't as good. They're sacrificing a lot to make Haaland work. He's so efficient it hasn't burned them too bad yet, but it's a much finer line than it was before. It's also made them less interesting: like I'm not sure the KDB issue is age, I think it's at least partly that playing to Haaland's strengths requires him to be far more limited. It genuinely annoys me- KDB was my favourite non-United player in the league since Bergkamp, and now he's a 'chip it long' merchant to a large extent. Pep's also struggling to use Grealish. Like he does a job, it's fine, but Grealish is at his best as an improviser and Pep doesn't have the space for him to consistently do that in the way he's best at. Mahrez could marry that dribbling flair to the system play to some extent- Grealish is wasted if he tries. For that reason I'm also glad Palmer left tbh, I think he'd be stifled in a similar way. There's only room for one real soloist in Pep's current setup, and at the moment it's Foden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Corvinus85 said: By the way I'm not sure how to feel about this thread title. But my life philosophy leans towards the it's better to laugh than cry mentality. Look on the bright side. Chelsea's problems, much like United's, are like 'first world problems'. Sure, both have been shit relative to their expenditure but neither are in any real danger of facing serious consequences like relegation or going bust and both have still won a few trophies which is still better than the vast majority of football clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 minutes ago, Consigliere said: Look on the bright side. Chelsea's problems, much like United's, are like 'first world problems'. Sure, both have been shit relative to their expenditure but neither are in any real danger of facing serious consequences like relegation or going bust and both have still won a few trophies which is still better than the vast majority of football clubs. He, at the end of last season I thought of which the teams that were still in the PL were likely candidates for relegation based on their performance and Chelsea was coming to mind among a few others, except I knew they couldn't fall because of their budget and pool of raw talent they acquired with that money. This season is proving me right. There is enough raw talent in the team for them to keep afloat, because otherwise as a team they might be relegation fodder. And there is nothing happening this season to give me hope for the next season. And if they get penalized with points deductions they might be serious trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I'll take that. We're clearly second best, but when Dummet changes his career to WWF, it's hard to avoid that penalty. No idea why he did it, Young was never going to score there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 22 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: He, at the end of last season I thought of which the teams that were still in the PL were likely candidates for relegation based on their performance and Chelsea was coming to mind among a few others, except I knew they couldn't fall because of their budget and pool of raw talent they acquired with that money. This season is proving me right. There is enough raw talent in the team for them to keep afloat, because otherwise as a team they might be relegation fodder. And there is nothing happening this season to give me hope for the next season. And if they get penalized with points deductions they might be serious trouble. It's pretty unlikely that they will be getting a points deduction and even if they do, it's unlikely that the points deduction will be big enough to put them in a relegation battle. There's also been other reports saying that Chelsea should be okay on the PSR front. They will also most likely sell some academy players before June 30 - according to reports, Newcastle intends to make Lewis Hall's move permanent so that's already going to be £28m + £7m in add-ons for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 hours ago, Rorshach said: I'll take that. We're clearly second best, but when Dummet changes his career to WWF, it's hard to avoid that penalty. No idea why he did it, Young was never going to score there. There's a reason he's our 27th choice. It looks like the Saudi's have had enough of trying to extend St James Park. Logistically it is a nightmare and even if you throw billions at it, the maximum would still only be about 65,000. A lot of chatter coming out of the North East that they are going to look at alternate sites. As long as they can secure somewhere near to the city centre so we don't lose that unique feel, I have no concerns. Its the quickest way for us to secure increased revenue and infrastructure improvements have no cap. Also, having a half decent stadium to play in until the other one is built is a huge bonus. if they are going to do it it should be at least 80,000 capacity (or at least easily expandable up to 80,000). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 With the amount riding on premier league results. You would think players would know how to stand in a wall for a free kick. Fucking pussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I thought Villa might do something but alas. Watch City win all their games and Arsenal and Liverpool drop points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If true, could City and Chelsea escape points deductions etc? https://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-man-city-points-deduction-luxury-tax-expulsion-everton-nottingham-forest ‘A ‘luxury tax’ has been considered, where those clubs who overspend will have a financial punishment which would increase the more they splash the cash. But clubs can choose to press on regardless if they wish. ‘The monies collected, which could run into the tens of millions, would then be redistributed to those Premier League who complied with the rules. It has been discussed that some of the fines could even go into an ’emergency fund’ to assist EFL clubs in financial danger. ‘Currently, such a tax features in America’s Major League Baseball and National Basketball Association, and relates to the amount spent on the salaries of the playing squad.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Luxury tax is not really a deterrent, when you have a money printer in Dubai, Riyadh or Doha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Rich getting away with breaking the rules by spending money... such a novel idea. I wonder how no one thought of it before. This would go directly against the whole "we're doing this to ensure clubs' sustainability" narrative that was the foundation of introducing FFP rules in the first place. Edited April 4 by baxus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.