saryan Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I've lost my drawl but not my "y'all".I definitely think "y'all" is something that English speakers outside the American south should adopt. The lack of a distinct plural "you" is a problem in English. Here in Brooklyn some of us are partial to "youse," but I actually prefer "y'all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Please don't watch any Danny Dyer films; they're dire (see what I did there). As soon as I spotted a Danny Dyer ref I thought of you. :) Seconded.ETA: I don't know how old that John Cleese letter is but the point about beer is way outdated. And that's a good thing. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 In fairness, you can pretty much take any swear word in England and turn it into a form of drunkeness. For exampleLets get pissed (previously mentioned, of course)Lets get fucked. Jesus christ, that gus is fucked. Lets get wankered.you can also betwattedcuntedarseholed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harding Grim Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 you can also betwattedcuntedarseholedYou sure can, i didnt want to overload on the swearing! you can pretty much take any word and change it to mean drunk...I heard the word 'bonkered' coined the other day, i thought it was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 The lack of a distinct plural "you" is a problem in English.Back in the olden days (or still current, if you live in Yorkshire), "you" was the second person plural. Second person familiar was "thou". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saryan Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Back in the olden days (or still current, if you live in Yorkshire), "you" was the second person plural. Second person familiar was "thou".It's amazing the language (in most places, anyway) evolved away from such an important word!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. E Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It's amazing the language (in most places, anyway) evolved away from such an important word!!It was all this crap about equality. Soon EVERYONE thought they were important enough to be called "you." Bloody communists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It was all this crap about equality. Soon EVERYONE thought they were important enough to be called "you." Bloody communists...Apart from the Quakers, who got in trouble by calling everyone "thou". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saryan Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It was all this crap about equality. Soon EVERYONE thought they were important enough to be called "you." Bloody communists...LOL. Or maybe our linguistic ancestors were just lazy/minimalists...no complicated deciding what you have to call people/conjugating different "you"s/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buy one get one free Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Speaking of lazy....the Brit 'schedule' is waaay lazier than the US 'schedule.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeric Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Back in the olden days (or still current, if you live in Yorkshire), "you" was the second person plural. Second person familiar was "thou".I'm sat here thinking do all my extended family conform to this stereotype and I have no frigging clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman of the North Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It was all this crap about equality. Soon EVERYONE thought they were important enough to be called "you." Bloody communists...Don't blame the communists, if it where up to them "thou" would be the norm, not "you". Thou ought rather blame the snobbish lower middle class in old Albion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. E Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Don't blame the communists, if it where up to them "thou" would be the norm, not "you". Thou ought rather blame the snobbish lower middle class in old Albion.Thouest meanest likest the pre-Gangnam style gangnam style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoë Sumra Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I definitely think "y'all" is something that English speakers outside the American south should adopt. The lack of a distinct plural "you" is a problem in English. Here in Brooklyn some of us are partial to "youse," but I actually prefer "y'all."Interesting. I picked up "youse" while living in Scotland, and occasionally still use it while back up there. Was there a Brooklyn Scots influx a hundred or so years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saryan Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Interesting. I picked up "youse" while living in Scotland, and occasionally still use it while back up there. Was there a Brooklyn Scots influx a hundred or so years back?Possibly :) ...actually now that I think of it my grandmother was from Ireland and she said "youse," but she pronounced it with a shorter vowel for the "ou", like "yuz". I mean you definitely hear that said with the shorter vowel sound here too, but in a classical NY/Brooklyn accent you would really emphasize the "oo" sound. :) I'm trying to think if I've heard my cousins in Ireland say it too...in the case of Grandma sometimes it was hard to tell what was from Ireland and what she Brooklynified :D .ETA: I mean, really it's a very logical way to solve the lack of a plural you problem. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Youse is in use down here, but it suffers from the same stigmatisation of other noble attempts to pluralise our second person personal pronoun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I've heard 'steaming' a few times over here to refer to someone being drunk. Don't yet know if that is an overall Britishism or just something the Scots say.As far as I know it's just Scottish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brzibrzi Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Apart from the Quakers, who got in trouble by calling everyone "thou".wtf is a quaker? i looked them up on wikipedia and i still don't see the point. it seems the article was written by a quaker and i was hoping for more of a mocking description :)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.C. Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The Quakers are the inventors of instant oatmeal. Your ignorance of the important part they played in American history is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 As far as I know it's just Scottish.This. It is also my impression that the phrase for really drunk is 'scottish'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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