Darth Richard Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I will give it a try, I read the sample pages and it's much better than usual for him in terms of style, but Sanderson must've really outdone himself it to write a novella as good as On a Red Station, Drifting or Let Maps to Others (the latter wasn't on the ballot even though it really should've been IMO)Pfft, what has quality ever had to do with the Hugos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Rhinos Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Remember when Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire beat a Storm of Swords? Yeah, you can stop talking about Redshirts being the worst book to ever win the Hugo now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Remember when Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire beat a Storm of Swords? Yeah, you can stop talking about Redshirts being the worst book to ever win the Hugo now. Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire is way better than Redshirts, it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 some hugo winners are nasty bad. zelazny's call me conrad, for instance, is an absolute mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Pfft, what has quality ever had to do with the Hugos?+1. Oh, your McFish doesn't taste like poached Alaskan salmon?Do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Remember when Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire beat a Storm of Swords? Yeah, you can stop talking about Redshirts being the worst book to ever win the Hugo now.Oh puh-lease. I mean, for fucks sake, go look at the winners list. Goblet of Fire is probably one of the best 2 or 3 to win in the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Rhinos Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 You haven't actually read the winners have you? If you had you wouldn't be spouting such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 There's been a pretty dodgy run in the past three in particular - Blackout/All Clear was a total mess (and I normally love Willis) and The Dervish House was on the ballot, ffs. Among Others is a pandering, tooth aching, flimsy piece of nostalgia and now this.2010 was tied between The Windup Girl and The City and the City, which seems respectable, but the years before that saw The Graveyard Book (winning over Anathem) and The Yiddish Policemen's Union (which I liked but is barely genre.) win.(Before that it was Rainbow's End and Spin, both of which I think are vastly overrated, but it's harder to figure out there how much author name recognition and collective back slapping and the like was there and how much people really loved those books.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You haven't actually read the winners have you? If you had you wouldn't be spouting such nonsense.Lol books ar for nedrs i only watch movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff daddy Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Lol books ar for nedrs i only watch moviesSpeaking of movies, I loved Galaxy Quest so I'm very happy it's novelization is getting the awards regonition it never got itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Speaking of movies, I loved Galaxy Quest so I'm very happy it's novelization is getting the awards regonition it never got itself.Such an amazing movie. Sam Rockwell is perfect. Is Redshirts even 1/10th as good as Galaxy Quest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Such an amazing movie. Sam Rockwell is perfect. Is Redshirts even 1/10th as good as Galaxy Quest?No, not even 1/100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th.I almost feel like the Hugo Awards are trolling us at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Did you nominate or vote? If you didn't, have you ever thought about it? It's something I saw mentioned in the 'reformation' thread (and other places) - a lot of eligible people don't take part in the process. What would increase the participation rate (and thus get Hugos that reflect more peoples' opinions)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Rhinos Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Such an amazing movie. Sam Rockwell is perfect. Is Redshirts even 1/10th as good as Galaxy Quest?One of the biggest problems with Redshirts is that Scalzi doesn't seem very familiar with Star Trek. It feels like a book written by a casual fan of the series. Galaxy Quest was clearly the work of a group that loved the shit out of Star Trek and that sort of enthusiasm is infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know I know Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Worst Hugo winner ever by some margin.Yeah, I think Redshirts is probably the worst winner ever.It's a competitive field.Imho, Bridecicle beats them. I can't think of any other EscapePod episode that I enjoyed so little that I actually got annoyed with EscapePod for even fielding it; it was jaw-dropping to hear later that a dumb story with such dumb science (and super-dumb sexuality) was even nominated for HUGO, let alone won. A reminder that "awards" are nothing but overhyped blogger opinion-posts, often by mediocre bloggers.But Redshirts is probably Scalzi's least good work... not bad, but not good either. And now, Iain M. Banks - the IMHO best scifi author of recent decades, just passed away a few months ago - won't have any HUGOs. Not that his latest nom Hydrogen Sonata is as good as Algebraist (his previous nom). But now Banks is dead and hugo-less, and Scalzi won for "Redshirts".HUGO, tsk. It's like a silly youtube channel with too many subscribers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hilarious review explaining why Redshirts is terrible - http://secritcrush.livejournal.com/474204.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigei Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 some hugo winners are nasty bad. zelazny's call me conrad, for instance, is an absolute mess. Lies! Call Me Conrad is an excellent work of fiction and billions of times better than Redshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Bridesicle was fine, although I really would have liked Spar to win that year. The 2011 result is in my opinion worse in that regard, with the least interesting nominated story winning.And at least the Hugo didn't sink to the level of having That Leviathan, Whom Thou Hast Made win **cough Nebula cough** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Reforming the Hugos is probably impossible, but you can certainly influence them more. Next year's Worldcon is in London, which should mean a (somewhat) more ecelectic ballot, as long as the Brits remember to nominate.Looking at the books this year, I think The Adjacent by Christopher Priest (who'd normally not even get in the front door of the Hugos) is a clear frontrunner. Hopefully Alastair Reynolds's new book will be good. A Gaiman nomination would seem likely. This year otherwise hasn't proven too great so far, but then I'm way down on my reading this year and may have missed some really good stuff.Goblet of Fire is probably one of the best 2 or 3 to win in the last 20 years.I wouldn't quite go that far, but IMO it's certainly better than Redshirts, Blackout/All Clear and Spin. The City and the City, The Yiddish Policemen's Union, Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, American Gods, Blue Mars and Green Mars are much better winners. It's probably about a par with Barrayar and Doomsday Book. The other winners in that period I haven't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It's definitely better than Rainbow's End and Among Others too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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