moseisley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Do you guys think it will be used again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Ravens Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes. Why else include it in the story? The whole Dayne Family culture of selecting their heroes and only allowing worthy warriors to wield the prestigious weapon almost demand that we see Dawn play a role in upcoming events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moseisley Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes. Why else include it in the story? The whole Dayne Family culture of selecting their heroes and only allowing worthy warriors to wield the prestigious weapon almost demand that we see Dawn play a role in upcoming events.What do you think will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPTWP Timett Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I do think we will see dawn in action I don't have a clue who will wield it. Maybe Darkstar maybe it gets stolen only George knows for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think the whole Dayne storyline, Ned and Ashara's supposed relationship, legendary sword waiting for the chosen son, even Ned Dayne is all just one big red herring to detract the reader away from R+L=J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple-eyes Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think the whole Dayne storyline, Ned and Ashara's supposed relationship, legendary sword waiting for the chosen son, even Ned Dayne is all just one big red herring to detract the reader away from R+L=J.Plus darkstar, a red herring for Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Darkstar will take it early in Winds. It will somehow eventually make its way to Jon. No idea how but it will head North to Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think Dawn was the original Lightbringer.That's a solid theory. I'm torn between the original Lightbringer being Dawn or Lightbringer being a metaphor for the Night's Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fishbiscuit Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think (and hope) it will make an appearance. I'd be interested to know how the weilder is deemed worthy. Does the most senior member of House Dayne decide? Is it a Sword-in-the-stone / Thor's-hammer type scenario? Does it have to be weilded by a Dayne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Morbid Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I really hope Darkstar will Fuc* Shi* up with dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think Varys got his sneaky hands on it and promised it to Darkstar in exchange for killing/attacking Myrcella. That and a spot in Aegon's Kingsguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 ^Interesting thought. Darkstar has to take it early in Winds for it to have any action in the story. I don't see why Jon would need Dawn when he already has Longclaw and Blackfyre would be his by rights. If he will switch swords it should be for Blackfyre, which Ilyrio gave Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pox Americana Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 No. Ned Dayne is just a kid and Darkstar is an outlaw. Only way Dawn shows up is if Darkstar takes it. Can members of the cadet branch even wield it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Powers Of Palantíri Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I think Dawn was the original Lightbringer.I agree. Dawn literally ends the Long Night by Bringing Light. Dawn is the only sword that is thousands of years old, the oldest VS swords are about Five hundred. I believe Dawn was carried by the Gemstone Emperors, of which Dany has a vision in AGoT.A Game of Thrones - Daenerys IX"… want to wake the dragon …"Ghosts lined the hallway, dressed in the faded raiment of kings. In their hands were swords of pale fire. They had hair of silver and hair of gold and hair of platinum white, and their eyes were opal and amethyst, tourmaline and jade.When the Bloodstone Emperor usurped the Amethyst Empress, a small faction of her people fled to a construction project at Battle Isle. Dark Valyrian Steel that drinks in Light has a memory and a mind of its own, this comes from the unwilling Blood used in its forging.Dawn is White and Alive with Light, Dawnbringer was pulled from the fire White hot and thrust through Nissa Nissa's willing heart, the Blade absorbing her courage and strength.I also believe Dawn may flash Red to signify when in a Worthy persons hand, and that it may burn Red when confronted by the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Wasn't the original ancestral Ice thousands of years old, too? Not the VS Ice that was remade into Widow's Wail & Oath Keeper, the one that was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpenn Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 ^^ Yes. From the Age of Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dornishdame Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'd love to know just how much Dayne blood must run through the veins of the Sword of the Morning. Arthur Dayne was the son of the Lord of Starfall - do you have to be that to claim Dawn? Maekar I was married to Dyanna Dayne - and his grandchildren and great-grandchildren married their siblings (therefore no dilution of blood took place) - does that mean that Daenerys (or Jon, should R+L=J) would be deemed to have enough Dayne blood to wield Dawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I agree. Dawn literally ends the Long Night by Bringing Light. Dawn is the only sword that is thousands of years old, the oldest VS swords are about Five hundred. I believe Dawn was carried by the Gemstone Emperors, of which Dany has a vision in AGoT.A Game of Thrones - Daenerys IX"… want to wake the dragon …"Ghosts lined the hallway, dressed in the faded raiment of kings. In their hands were swords of pale fire. They had hair of silver and hair of gold and hair of platinum white, and their eyes were opal and amethyst, tourmaline and jade.When the Bloodstone Emperor usurped the Amethyst Empress, a small faction of her people fled to a construction project at Battle Isle. This. Though I do not know how it jives with the story of being forged from the pale star that literally crashed into the site Starfall was built at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I should clarify, I think all Valyrian steel swords predate Valyria. They were forged from the meteorites that fell when the second moon was destroyed as in the Qartheen legend. Dawn is different somehow, possibly just because it hasn't been reworked and twisted by Valyrian magic. I'm just spitballing that last part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke Martin Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't see why Jon would need Dawn when he already has Longclaw and Blackfyre would be his by rights. If he will switch swords it should be for Blackfyre, which Ilyrio gave Aegon.How exactly is Blackfyre Jon's by rights? Aegon the Unworthy gave it to Daemon Blackfyre, so it should belong to the Blackfyre line. If Faegon is a true Blackfyre then it would be his by rights.Even though Blackfyre was the Targ ancestral sword, whoever it belonged to can give it away to someone worthy of it. Just like Jeor gave Longclaw to Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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