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  1. Jabar of House Titan

    Who got the most screwed over

    Spite. He wanted to insult Tywin and maybe even Cersei too (who apparently was involved at this point because Jaime joined the Kingsguard soon after). After all...in between a princess and a Lord Paramount's daughter, a princess is the better match on paper. Desperation. He couldn't find any other willing, eligible young women in Westeros or the Free Cities. And he absolutely wasn't going to entertain any women from Slaver's Bay, the Summer Islands, Qarth or the Dothraki Sea. Possibly Varys talked him into it. In any case, there is a lot more about Aerys II, Rhaegar and Rhaella that we don't know yet. Notice how Fire and Blood, Vol. 2 is supposed to show us how Dorne came to join the realm, what happened to the dragons and what happened at Summerhall? Notice how it's likely not going to come out until after The Winds of Winter? I imagine Fire and Blood, Vol. 3 is going to be very detailed about Jaehaerys II, Aerys II and their progeny: Rhaegar, Viserys, Daenerys, Jon, Aegon and Rhaenys. And that won't come out until after A Dream of Spring.
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    The character assassination of Daenerys

    I don't care which way you cut it. There is absolutely no excuse for what happened in these last two seasons (but especially season 8) No excuse. And yes, because this was just so poorly devised and executed, what happened to Daenerys Targaryen was character assassination. It didn't even make sense. In a medieval world at war, only a strange bird would object to a city held by a openly hostile force being sacked or torched. No one would complain about how burning people at the stake is an improper way to execute people. Levelling the whole city -- as it was presented in the show -- and causing the death of hundreds of thousands of people was unnecessary, reckless and in poor taste. Not necessarily evil and sadistic. Too many people are approaching it from a 21st century "woke" armchair point of view. The fact that Tyrion literally gets away with murder (and much more) and gets to have a happy ending makes it even worse.
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    Who got the most screwed over

    See the problem there is that Aerys was insane and regularly did injurious things to himself and those closest to him for painfully illogical reasons. So yes, I can see Aerys disinheriting Rhaegar and/or his grandchildren Rhaenys and Aegon. Why not? It's already been established that Aerys had some super-paranoid, racist feelings about the Dornish AND he was holding his daughter-in-law and his grandchildren hostage. Why was he holding them hostage? Because he wanted to force House Martell and Dorne to fight for him even though they were still clear allies of the Iron Throne. Hatred or disgust towards the Mad King doesn't mean that you automatically endorse Robert Baratheon's movement to undo centuries of precedent and decorum. It's also important to mention that neither Rhaella, Elia, Rhaegar nor the Dornishmen could do a damn thing about the hostage situation. If Aerys removed Aegon and Rhaenys from the equation, it'd be yet another batshit moment from King Aerys' batshit reign. Completely in-character. Frankly, I'm of the thought that Rhaegar was a polygamist like Aegon and Maegor. He had arrangement with a powerful septon and was able to get himself two wives with Lyanna as the second secret wife. For all we know, Elia may have known and even approved. And I feel like Rhaegar and Lyanna's marriage (or whatever it was) was held in Starfall. Which explains why House Dayne was so intimately involved with Ned Stark and the Tower of Joy nonsense. Hell, it wouldn't be that surprising if we were to find out that the Tower of Joy is on the lands of House Dayne.
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    The problem with Bran being king narrative wise

    Exactly! It's just absolutely crazy that people continue to defend this. D&D literally had 8 seasons (i.e. all the time in the world) to do this. When season 3 was in post-production. Late 2012, early 2013... This is what I think will happen. Let's forget about the all-out war that will erupt between Daenerys and Aegon for a moment. A greyscale epidemic -- not including the other more standard wintertime illnesses -- is eminent. There will be a horrifically massive food shortage. Dead people won't be staying dead. So you either have flesh-eating zombies running around or freshly-resurrected people broken beyond repair trying to take control. It's going to be the coldest winter with the ugliest weather in centuries. Not to mention that the sun probably won't be shining, enshrouding the whole world in darkness. And then there are the Others. Yeah, I am expecting (at least) 75% of the people in Westeros to die or be horribly maimed. The only people I can see surviving long enough to participate in the Great Council and be heard are Sansa, Arya, Samwell, Bran, Tyrion and Arianne. Basically, Tyrion will try to turn it in his favor but the Starks (particularly Sansa) will be ready for him and turn the tables on him. For the record, I am willing to bet money that Tyrion is not surviving the book series. I agree. I think traditional kingship will die with the Targaryen dynasty. The Seven Kingdoms will either split back up into seven distinct kingdoms (I can see the North, Riverlands and the Vale becoming one nation though) or they will become a loose confederation. Bran will be more of a judge, a warden, a priest or a lord protector as you say...not an actual king. Let me put it to you this way. If Jon is the true heir to the Iron Throne as the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, then that would make him King of all Westeros. If Jon is the rightful King, then who would be his heir? This is where it gets a bit fuzzy. Jon will likely be married to Daenerys by the time everyone finds out his true parentage. And Aegon's true nature is unknown: We don't know if he actually is Rhaegar's first son who was disinherited by Aerys or Rhaegar. He actually could have never been disinherited but because of his death, there could be another "secret" will that puts Jon ahead of Aegon. We don't know if Aegon is actually a Blackfyre or a regular degular dude that's been spoonfed lies, fallacies and fairy tales by Varys. In any case, Aegon is doomed. He has several very stubborn, very powerful people who are being pitted against him: Euron, Littlefinger, Cersei, Daenerys, Stannis. He's not going to make it. When the truth about Jon gets out, where Aegon falls in the line of succession (either before or right after Jon) doesn't matter. The point is that Aegon is Jon's closest male relative paternally speaking. And Aegon is dead meat. Daenerys is going to marry Jon, probably before she finds out who he really is. In any case, Daenerys will be joining her claim with Jon in marriage. Because they are still paternal blood relatives, Daenerys would become Jon's heir once Jon ascends to kingship. But when Daenerys and Aegon die, Jon has no more Targaryen heirs because there are no more Targaryens -- disputed or otherwise. Everything that Jon has and is would then pass onto his closest male relative on his mother's side. His closet male blood relative on his mother's side is Bran Stark. So, yes, currently, Bran has a clear legal right to the Iron Throne after House Targaryen burns out. Now, whether the book version of Bran will rule in his own right or will take a backseat role and let Sansa do most of the work remains to be seen. It is illogical for Bran and Sansa to both become king and queen of their own separate kingdoms. Bran could literally be the one making final judgements and sitting the throne while Sansa is the Hand of the King, responsible for the day-to-day governance. His magic powers and the role he plays during the Long Night would only add to the mystique and make him more eligible.
  5. Jabar of House Titan

    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    LOL....you got me!
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    I guess the Starks will just die out?

    Well that's where real life and the series differs. The series makes it clear that a queen or a lady who rules in her own right can be secure in her rule. It's more difficult for women than for men but it's much more common in the series than in real life 16th century England. So there's no excuse: Sansa's husband will be her consort (kingly, knightly or lordly) and he will not have power over her. She's too much of a force with powerful allies.
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    I guess the Starks will just die out?

    Well, the books have implied it several times that is exactly what ends up happening. The Starks will be the last of the great houses and they will likely save Westeros and get it through the Long Night. But, they too will perish. I think Rick This is one of the many problems that D&D presented. The two queens who are sexually active are labeled not only as villains but as insane loose cannons? The last three episodes of Game of Thrones have some very problematic, misogynistic overtones. I can't really understand how you can really like it...
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    West of Westeros: The Voyages of A. Stark

    It's just not a good ending. It's a nice idea but they did nothing to make it a good.
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    Heresy 226 of wolves, dragons and other familiars

    I feel like the Children and the Dothraki have similar goals. The Dothraki consider it sinful to erect cities and castles because they believe the earth should be left alone. That's why they are nomads and why they so destructive when it comes to cities. They eventually believe that ghost grass will cover the earth and that will be the end of the world. Ghost grass, if you read up on it, sounds a lot like the weirwood heart trees.
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    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    I agree with the bold part of this post. I feel like the Great Other and R'hllor are playing their own game of thrones and Melisandre, Sansa, Tyrion, Daenerys, Jon Snow, Arya, etc. are their pawns.
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    What are you least looking forward to?

    Well to be honest, you can split season 5 into two seasons. So, according to George, that's six seasons. A Game of Thrones - season 1 A Clash of Kings - season 2 A Storm of Swords - season 3-4 A Feast for Crows (relevant material from Dance) - season 5 A Dance with Dragons (relevant material from Feast) - season 6 The Winds of Winter - season 7-8 A Dream of Spring - season 9-10. Maybe even a short mini-season as the 11th season to deal with the "A Time for Wolves" Scouring of the Shire-esque aftermath 10-12 seasons doesn't necessarily mean 4 more books.
  12. Jabar of House Titan

    The problem with Bran being king narrative wise

    Thank you for saying this!
  13. Jabar of House Titan

    The problem with Bran being king narrative wise

    The ending in the show was bittersweet? Hahahahaaha Toy Story 3 has a bittersweet ending. Lost in Translation has a bittersweet ending. A Tale of Two Cities has a bittersweet ending. Charlotte's Web has a bittersweet ending. Gladiator has a bittersweet ending. Red Dawn has a bittersweet ending. The ending we got in this show was not bittersweet. Tell me what was the sweet part?
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    The problem with Bran being king narrative wise

    Yes. All happened in A Dance with Dragons. A lot of people seem to ignore it, shrugging it off as Tyrion suffering from PTSD and depression. But it is what it is: Tyrion killed his father when there was literally no reason for him to do so. From that moment on, he's literally been sinking lower and lower. He's not going to survive the book series. There has been a prophecy about a maiden (the same maiden prophesized to be present at the Purple Wedding with the snakes or poison in her hair) slaying a giant in a castle of snow. Everyone knows the maiden is Sansa. But who is the giant? Some people think it's referring to Littlefinger but the one character who is ascribed with all the giant imagery is actually Tyrion. Not necessarily. Robert Baratheon and his brothers are related to the Targaryens by way of their grandmother, Rhaelle Baratheon. Although he took the Iron Throne by force and held it (i.e. right of conquest), that was the premise of the Baratheon dynasty. Blood claim via Princess Rhaelle. Bran, Sansa and Arya are blood relatives of the current generation of Targaryens (i.e. Viserys, Daenerys, Aegon if he's real) by way of Jon Snow. It's the same thing; the same premise that got Robert Baratheon legitimized as king will work for Brandon Stark. Doubly so since proximity and sex works in Bran's favor. A still-living male first cousin who was the son of King Aerys II's firstborn versus a dead female grandparent who was the lastborn of King Aegon V. And if Jon names Bran as his heir before he and Dany (whom I am 100% sure will be married halfway through Dream) are... able to have a child killed, exiled, imprisoned or otherwise removed from the line of succession ….then that makes Bran that much more likely to become the King of Westeros. If Jon is the one true heir to the Iron Throne, then yes, if all his Targaryen relatives are dead or otherwise incapacitated, then his claim to the Iron Throne and the Seven Kingdoms would pass on to his Stark relatives. Take for example Riverrun. If something was to happen to Edmure and his child, the Tully castle and the title of Lord Paramount of the Trident passes to Catelyn. But since Catelyn is already dead (she's not technically dead anymore but bear with me), then the Tully inheritance passes onto Catelyn's children, starting with Bran before flowing from Rickon (if he's alive), Sansa and finally Arya. If all of Catelyn's children are dead or otherwise incapacitated, then it goes to Lysa and then Lysa's son, Robert Arryn. If Robert Arryn can't inherit because he's dead or something, then Riverrun and the Trident would probably end up belonging to someone in the Vale or the Riverlands. Because House Whent (the house of Catelyn's mother) is extinct and Robert Arryn is the last living male of the head branch of House Arryn. Now, I agree with @Darryk. Bran is going to have a bigger claim to fame than just his blood relation to Jon. But if he makes himself and his powers known in Westeros and if he is instrumental in defeating the Others, Euron Greyjoy or both....then yeah. King Bran makes sense.
  15. Jabar of House Titan

    Who got the most screwed over

    smh @Kajjo Yeah. Who didn't get screwed over. I say that it all boils down to the three central characters of the entire story: Daenerys, Jon and Bran. Daenerys and Bran suffer so much because the imbecile showrunners we had thought it was a good idea to castrate a fantasy show of its fantastical, more magical elements. Jon suffers so much because Jon is actually extremely intelligent and it is impossible to write characters smarter than you are. Honestly, the R+L=J revelation did absolutely nothing for Jon. Why would such a big revelation only serve to tangentially drive Daenerys crazy? Why would she be unhappy with that? She logically has no reason to be unhappy or to want to force Jon to be silent. Why were they not married? Bran is all the more egregious because those morons knew that Bran was the endgame king for how long? Four years at the least? Yet, they did nothing with him. Going from "I'm not Bran Stark anymore" to "I'll never be lord of anything" to "Why do you think I came here?"
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