Salafi Stannis Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 No, i've read both series', and asoiaf is much more violent, there is much more blood and gore, a lot more. Graphic description of swords and axes cutting through human flesh, dismemberment, disembowelment, castration (Theon) graphic description of torture (again, Theon) people being birned alive and torture techniques such as flaying. In Harry Potter, pretty much all deaths (excepts Snape's) is pointing a wand and saying Avada Kedavra, not that i'm complaining. Harry Potter's parents die before the series begins, so you don't get a chance to get invested in their characters. In Harry Potter, it's a boy wizard going on new adventures every year and, although sometimes losing people, defeats evil every time, and comes back laughing next year. Game of Thrones just isn't that. You get very emotionally invested in the very few decent people in a world full of genuinely horrible people who do horrible things to people (massacres,torture, rape etc.) and the good, moral people die (Ned, Robb, Pre- red god magic Cat, Oberyn, Maester Luwin, Cressen, Benjen Stark, Qhoring Halfhand, ), Brienne having her face bitten off, the Stark kids pretty much getting screwed over in life, while Walder Frey gets to live to 90 in a big castle with 100 wives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Arthur Dayne was mentioned by Joffrey, I wouldn't blame anyone who drowns him out when he starts talking :lol: LOL Jack's Joff is enough to make me cringe, in a good way, I suppose, and not listen to a damn thing he has to say. :lmao: ETA: Although, I did notice him mentioning Ser Duncan the Tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBanana Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Although, I did notice him mentioning Ser Duncan the Tall. Four pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Also another point. The characters in ASOIAF are 90% grey characters meaning they don't fit squarly into the good or bad stereotype. Harry Potter on the other hand has mostly these good or bad indentities. At one point you might think Jaime is an asshole who you hope dies then a book later you are cheering for him the most. Unlike any of the major HP characters whom you believe are good or bad characters from the start and finish the series the same way. The only exceptions I can really see are Snape, Quirrel, Malfoy (kind of), Sirius, Gilderoy Lockhart. Sorry but ASOIAF is way bloodier and ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 the whitewashing here is astounding. Why not pose this question to the 163 baby gorillas Harry crucified in Book 5? Or the noble heroes at Azkaban, who were forcefully imprisoned and fed their own body parts piece by piece by Neville Longbottom, sick fuck he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nobody is saying that HP is free of death and misery, but the idea that it's bloodier than ASoIaF is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyS Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ASOIAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not the besteros Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 you gotta be kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nobody is saying that HP is free of death and misery, but the idea that it's bloodier than ASoIaF is laughable. Absolutely, but HP is very bloody if we consider that is a book that has been read by young children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hedwig is important? :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hedwig is important? :bang: It symbolises Harry's maidenhead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Snarky: Well put. The grey characters are what set these two apart mainly. Grey is the best because that makes them less predictable and more human. The PoV aspect is another major difference as well. We're privy to the inner monologue of a good bit of characters. Concerning violence, it's not even close, really. The majority of violence in Harry Potter novels happens in the climax chapters, and at the battle of Hogwarts in DH. There's consistent violence throughout ASoIaF; not just in the last few chapters. You did make another good point about how the violence is inflicted too. In thrones, axe and swords through body part, and in HP, a spell which automatically kills someone without a trace of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 JCRB: :cheers: HP will always have a special place in my heart cuz I was a kid when those books were coming out and the anticipation of their release was unreal, but Ice and Fire is my favorite series due to being able to understand adult content and realistic characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ASOIAF by far, and one is generally far more affected by the deaths than in Harry Potter. But, it's not really a fair comparison.If Martin had written Harry Potter, Hermione would have been revealed towards the end as having worked for Voldemort all along, and would have killed Ron and Ginny Weasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess who's back Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nothing in Harry Potter can compere to death of Ned and Red Wedding.Actually I cant even name any book that could top that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ASOIAF by far, and one is generally far more affected by the deaths than in Harry Potter. But, it's not really a fair comparison.If Martin had written Harry Potter, Hermione would have been revealed towards the end as having worked for Voldemort all along, and would have killed Ron and Ginny Weasley. Hermione would be the one with responsive nipples. And I'm still affected by Sirius' death =´( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singer's stew Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ASOIAF by far, and one is generally far more affected by the deaths than in Harry Potter. But, it's not really a fair comparison.If Martin had written Harry Potter, Hermione would have been revealed towards the end as having worked for Voldemort all along, and would have killed Ron and Ginny Weasley. Ron would have incestuos relationships with Ginny and Woldemort would be secret Potter :DDamn, need new topic "If GRRM would have written Hary Potter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hermione would be the one with responsive nipples. And I'm still affected by Sirius' death =´(Hermione would have had slept with Bellatrix, and explored her Azkabani Swamp.Sirius' death didn't affect me that much. I was more sorry about Snape. The death of Charity Burbidge and Nagini's emergence out of Bathilda's body were both pretty horrifying and well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm the Party Pooper Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'm sorry, but I don't get why u listed those people among bad guys.Also, where is puddles in you list? I'm not much into Harry Potter, but even there was Voldemort clearly evil in the way Sauron is evil or rather, or a grey guy? Where are all other people that died? Why are the Starks the good ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Clegane's head Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 " Elia of Dorne, I killed her screaming whelp, then I raped her. Then I smashed her fucking head in, like this!" That line, followed by what came after is more shocking then anything HP has in it as far as I know. Bit silly to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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