Lily Valley Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm loving how Vox Day completely ignores it when Juliette speaks for herself. It's like she doesn't even exist. I'm with Mormont on her motivation. Unless Brad was running around shouting that he would organize the Puppy Slate this year, I think I would have assumed Correia was doing it again. If they hadn't been so successful this year, I'd have no idea that it was Kate Paulk's turn next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 As much as I like Snark, and as much as most of my posts are just me joking around to lighten mood. I've always been real.... unconcerned(?) with private lives of authors of books I read. I've always just read books if I enjoy them, and just try to read them if I don't. I just can't wrap my head around Authors acting like this. I know they're just people too, but... I don't know, I liked it better when they were just a name on a book I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 love that torg is exposed as a mendacious prick.Maybe the evidence is this completely specious claim from someone from Vox Day's Castalia House that a couple of sets of recommendations from the 2001 NESFA recommended reading list were somehow decisive rather than simply showing congruency. It's one of the most inane posts I've seen come from the RP camp to date, and that's saying something.ludicrous, this one. mieville was a relative newcomer, but the other five nominees were very well known and well nominated previously. is there any suggestion that these six texts did not deserve to be there? what are the better books that year that would have made it on, but for the evil NEFSA? a joke, then, the notion that a 'slate' of ten nominees on which the six finalists were found somehow torqued the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 This whole thing is just getting stupid. I mean, it was beofre, but it's not entertaining any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm loving how Vox Day completely ignores it when Juliette speaks for herself. It's like she doesn't even exist. It's quite a sad incident, I think. I had been trying to give Mr Torgersen the benefit of the doubt as a person, but his reaction here (as I said in a comment on that blog) is essentially tossing Ms Wade under a bus. That, plus the homophobic Twitter comment about Scalzi: https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/595065592081690624/photo/1 Are rapidly depleting any goodwill that remained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Dear lord. The real Torgersen reveals himself. ETA: Time to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubarey Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It's quite a sad incident, I think. I had been trying to give Mr Torgersen the benefit of the doubt as a person, but his reaction here (as I said in a comment on that blog) is essentially tossing Ms Wade under a bus. That, plus the homophobic Twitter comment about Scalzi: https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/595065592081690624/photo/1 Are rapidly depleting any goodwill that remained. I would not characterize that as a homophobic comment it simply alludes to Scaizi's supposed homosexuality which is a different kettle of fish. I'm loving how Vox Day completely ignores it when Juliette speaks for herself. It's like she doesn't even exist. I'm with Mormont on her motivation. Unless Brad was running around shouting that he would organize the Puppy Slate this year, I think I would have assumed Correia was doing it again. If they hadn't been so successful this year, I'd have no idea that it was Kate Paulk's turn next year. And why should you if Paulk is not heading it up this year she is pretty much out of the limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would not characterize that as a homophobic comment it simply alludes to Scaizi's supposed homosexuality which is a different kettle of fish. ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffguard Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would not characterize that as a homophobic comment it simply alludes to Scaizi's supposed homosexuality which is a different kettle of fish. Don't be obtuse. It was clearly intended as an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would not characterize that as a homophobic comment it simply alludes to Scaizi's supposed homosexuality which is a different kettle of fish. And why should you if Paulk is not heading it up this year she is pretty much out of the limelight. As for Paulk, exactly she's not in the limelight, so by the same principle it's entirely plausible that Juliette was unaware that Brad was heading up the SP slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would not characterize that as a homophobic comment it simply alludes to Scaizi's supposed homosexuality which is a different kettle of fish. ... It betrays an attitude that thinks calling someone homosexual is an insult. And the apology that followed shows that even stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 i assume that torgs is on record elsewhere opposing same sex marriage on 'moral' grounds or expressing an opinion that same sex sex is unaesthetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Valley Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 As for Paulk, exactly she's not in the limelight, so by the same principle it's entirely plausible that Juliette was unaware that Brad was heading up the SP slate. Larry I am quite capable of speaking for myself, thank you very much. As for Paulk, she's NOT in the limelight, so by the same principle it's entirely plausible that Juliette was unaware that Brad was heading up the SP slate. (thanks for translating for me, dude). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 In other news, the Locus award finalists have been announced http://www.locusmag.com/News/2015/04/2015-locus-awards-finalists/. And while the voters there tend to trend differently from the Hugo crowd it highlights some of the works that might have been candidates for the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 In other news, the Locus award finalists have been announced http://www.locusmag.com/News/2015/04/2015-locus-awards-finalists/. And while the voters there tend to trend differently from the Hugo crowd it highlights some of the works that might have been candidates for the ballot. That's a very impressive list of nominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 it is impressive, but not nearly as amusing as all of the afflicted writings from torgs and corrs and hoyts and beales and OJ Ringo and the JCW and their dittohead legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Valley Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Good Lord, now Torgerson apologized to his cronies for going "below the belt." Vox Day also having a field day with this. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/05/04/id-rather-like-men-than-to-be-a-sad-puppy/ http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/never-retreat-never-apologize.html Also this open letter to Torgerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Good Lord, now Torgerson apologized to his cronies for going "below the belt." Vox Day also having a field day with this. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/05/04/id-rather-like-men-than-to-be-a-sad-puppy/ http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/never-retreat-never-apologize.html Also this open letter to Torgerson. 'Legion of Evil'? So who is the first to put this into their signature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Larry I am quite capable of speaking for myself, thank you very much. Apologies, should have let you respond first. Just frustrated with the constant obfuscation, misdirection, and cherrypicking coming from the puppycamp (not that that's what you were doing, cubarey), so I guess i'm a little trigger happy on the keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Valley Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Apologies, should have let you respond first. Just frustrated with the constant obfuscation, misdirection, and cherrypicking coming from the puppycamp (not that that's what you were doing, cubarey), so I guess i'm a little trigger happy on the keyboard. Larry, I'm just tweaking your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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