fionwe1987 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Are we going full WoR spoilers in this thread since it is a book 3 discussion? Just in case... [spoiler]I liked WoR quite a bit, but was really let down when Jasnah returned at the end. Her death caught me absolutely off guard and then much of the book lost emotional impact when she showed up at the end.[/spoiler] Yeah I feel the same way about that incident. It was a cheap way to up the tension. I liked WoR because it expanded the world, and it seems to me Shallan is (dreadful though her humor is) more poised to explore the more interesting aspects of the world. I did detest Kaladin in WoR, though. His "realization" was cheap and absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddler Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah I feel the same way about that incident. It was a cheap way to up the tension. I liked WoR because it expanded the world, and it seems to me Shallan is (dreadful though her humor is) more poised to explore the more interesting aspects of the world. I did detest Kaladin in WoR, though. His "realization" was cheap and absurd. I really liked Kaladin in the first book, but was bored a bit by him in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddler Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Are we going full WoR spoilers in this thread since it is a book 3 discussion? Just in case... [spoiler]I liked WoR quite a bit, but was really let down when Jasnah returned at the end. Her death caught me absolutely off guard and then much of the book lost emotional impact when she showed up at the end.[/spoiler] I am going to have to reread this book, I don't remember this at all, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I really liked Kaladin in the first book, but was bored a bit by him in the second. It's because the first book was actual character development. The second book was centered around him learning his powers.... and took hundreds of pages to do so. It was boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End of Disc One Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I feel the opposite; he had a very predictable arc in the first book, and I enjoyed his dickish attitude in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I am going to have to reread this book, I don't remember this at all, lol.[spoiler]She "died" on the ship when it was attacked. (By Ghostbloods? I don't remember. Too many secret factions.) In the epilogue scene she shows up and it turns out she was just off somewhere in the Fade or whatever its called learning to be epic and awesome or some such.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterOJ Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 [spoiler]She "died" on the ship when it was attacked. (By Ghostbloods? I don't remember. Too many secret factions.) In the epilogue scene she shows up and it turns out she was just off somewhere in the Fade or whatever its called learning to be epic and awesome or some such.[/spoiler] Does this really need to be spoiler tagged? [spoiler]I am not 100 percent convinced that she is actually "back." I think this could wind up being some kind of a red herring and it's not actually what it seemed to imply in the epilogue. Granted, that may be just wishful thinking on my part though.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Does this really need to be spoiler tagged?[spoiler]I am not 100 percent convinced that she is actually "back." I think this could wind up being some kind of a red herring and it's not actually what it seemed to imply in the epilogue. Granted, that may be just wishful thinking on my part though.[/spoiler] Dunno. The title of the post does not clearly delineate spoilers... So I erred on the side of caution. :dunno: ETA: and regarding your spoiler bit... That's a level of subtlety that I don't think I credit Sanderson with. Not to mention a totally unnecessary cop out that would have his Wheel of Time-esque fan base furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterOJ Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 ETA: and regarding your spoiler bit... That's a level of subtlety that I don't think I credit Sanderson with. Not to mention a totally unnecessary cop out that would have his Wheel of Time-esque fan base furious. You're probably right. I just sorta hope he goes the other way with it, because if it is what it looks like, that's a bit too cliched for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 You're probably right. I just sorta hope he goes the other way with it, because if it is what it looks like, that's a bit too cliched for my liking.Yes, mine too. I really thought "man... this guy's playing for keeps" when it first happened only to be totally let down later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 http://brandonsanderson.com/national-novel-writing-month-recap/So where do we stand as this month ends? Well, I got my 50k, but the book is still sitting at only 137k words. That’s roughly 1/3 of the way completed — assuming it’s around the length of Words of Radiance, which I’m hoping will be the case. (I’m not sure how much longer Tor will let me go.) There’s still a great deal of work to do on this book.I can’t really project a release date. Peter and Isaac have been very clear with me that we need more time for editing, revision, continuity, and art than we had on Words of Radiance. We’ll make a call on release dates sometime around when I turn the book in next spring or summer. It could be out next year, but Peter and Isaac want you all to be ready for a 2017 release instead. We’ll know more once I actually finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Finish I finish in the spring?A machine I tell you... A machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar of Skagos Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I half expected him to be finished with it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry_Havoc Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If the length is accurate, I may skip the next book. I have so much that I want to read and not near enough time to get to everything. Life's too short for a 1,000+ page average fantasy. I agree with those who prefer Kaladin in Way of Kings. He was way more interesting as a down and out bridge boy. And I actually like Shallan as long as she's not trying to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elarte Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm convinced that Brandon Sanderson has sold his soul to the Mormon version of the devil (is it just the regular devil?) to mass produce so many quality works. I have not disliked anything I've read by him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm convinced that Brandon Sanderson has sold his soul to the Mormon version of the devil (is it just the regular devil?) to mass produce so many quality works. I have not disliked anything I've read by him yet. Yeah, he's not the best fantasy author out there by any means, but I also haven't disliked anything of his that I've read, which says a lot. He just pumps out solid work at an insane pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar of Skagos Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I still haven't read WOR. Might have to pick it up this Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Slightly disappointing. Back in the day, Brandon said that Way of Kings was going to be the longest book in the series by far and the rest would be saner in size and he'd get them out every 18-24 months. It'll be unfortunate if that's not going to happen. Also, it makes the series rather unsustainable at 3 years per book (minimum) for a 10 book series. If Book 4 comes out in 2020 - ten years after Book 1 - that's going to be a bit of an issue at completing the series in a reasonable timeframe, especially given the mid-series gap he's going to take to do the second proper Mistborn trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Slightly disappointing. Back in the day, Brandon said that Way of Kings was going to be the longest book in the series by far and the rest would be saner in size and he'd get them out every 18-24 months. It'll be unfortunate if that's not going to happen. Also, it makes the series rather unsustainable at 3 years per book (minimum) for a 10 book series. If Book 4 comes out in 2020 - ten years after Book 1 - that's going to be a bit of an issue at completing the series in a reasonable timeframe, especially given the mid-series gap he's going to take to do the second proper Mistborn trilogy.He'll probably still get it done before Martin finishes Ice & Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm convinced that Brandon Sanderson has sold his soul to the Mormon version of the devil (is it just the regular devil?) to mass produce so many quality works. I have not disliked anything I've read by him yet. That would be Orson Scott Card. *bum tiss* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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