Larry of the Lawn Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will witness the signing of a U.S.-Taliban agreement on a withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, President Donald Trump said on Friday, heralding an agreement that could help his re-election campaign. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-02-28/us-sees-significant-reduction-in-afghan-violence-over-last-six-days Although always glad to see the US take steps to remove itself from fruitless war(at least for now), and I do hope the agreement stands, but the idea it’d help Trump does leave a slight bitter taste. War-time presidents tend benefit in terms of popularity(initially at least), how much would this agreement help Trump?  If it turns out to be a steady reduction of troops? A bit. But I'd imagine it would really only help him with people who were on the fence / looking for an excuse to stay with Trump. Eta: Can't believe we've been there so long. 911 seems like yesterday in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Do people have an ETA for SC primary results tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 13 hours ago, DMC said: Honest question - who's getting bailed out? With TARP in 2008 it was clear, and they've paid it back and then some. I don't know who's supposed to bailed out here. Pfft. Do you think a silly question such as 'Where is the money going to go go to?' would stop the Trump Administration?     3 hours ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: This could be blamed on a covert attempt by China to stifle America’s economic activity. Anecdotally, I heard a coworker last week saying this exact thing. So yes, the stupid is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: War-time presidents tend benefit in terms of popularity(initially at least), how much would this agreement help Trump? I think if you polled likely voters, the vast majority would be surprised to learn we are still in Afghanistan. Plus, the rally round the flag effect usually happens when presidents make war. Peace agreements? Psh. Real Americans wipe their ass with peace agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Triskele said: I've seen a lot of buzz about the virus hurting Trump politically, and there do seem to be signs from a lot of Trump people like Mick and Don Jr. that they're concerned about this.  That said, I saw a devil's advocate type of opinion the other day that this might boost Trump because of the globalization / human fear of the other, etc... Sure hope that's not true, and I also do not hope that anyone is harmed by the virus for the sake of hurting Trump as Don Jr says. I sure do think that it looks beyond horrible that they cut the bejeezus out of the CDC, and I hope that stings for them. But it sucks that there could be actual suffering on a mass scale that could have been prevented.  A big part of Republican strategy in the 2014 was immigrants, and yes ISIS fighters, crossing the southern border and bringing Ebola virus. It seemed very silly at the time. But, yes they won that election. Trump did not have as much luck with his Caravan story though. Remember how much he flogged that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: Do people have an ETA for SC primary results tonight? I’ll give a shout when we send in our results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, larrytheimp said: 911 seems like yesterday in a lot of ways. The day it all changed forever, bringing the initiation of the US as a police state. By now there is a significant percentage of the US population that has grown up with the idea that TSA lines and 'real identity' etc. are natural and normal. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq didn't make either their citizens or ours safer. But! it made possible bloomb manipulating the NY City rules to buy himself a prohibited third term of mayor, in which he consolidated NYC as a Luxury Brand City for the wealthy and impossible to afford for everybody else (and palled around with you-know-who and other like-minded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I’ll give a shout when we send in our results. Thank you, our man in Charleston! Is turnout still steady or is it heavy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 We’ve had a line for three hours.  Just eating breakfast.  To be clear the wait is maybe 10 mins but we’ve been pretty busy.  And I’m in Greenville, probably the most Republican part of the State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: We’ve had a line for three hours.  Just eating breakfast.  To be clear the wait is maybe 10 mins but we’ve been pretty busy.  And I’m in Greenville, probably the most Republican part of the State. I spent a month in and around Greenville ten years ago, beautiful area. I heard that the county closed 50+ polling locations since 2016, has anybody mentioned any difficulty in finding where they're supposed to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: We’ve had a line for three hours.  Just eating breakfast.  To be clear the wait is maybe 10 mins but we’ve been pretty busy.  And I’m in Greenville, probably the most Republican part of the State. So ... are the voters then mainly Rethugs voting Operation Chaos for Bernie in the Dem primary? ~~~~~~~~ Posters here may be interested in this long coverage article in New York Magazine about bloomb and his campaign; he's been trying to figure out getting the presidency for quite a few years now. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: I spent a month in and around Greenville ten years ago, beautiful area. I heard that the county closed 50+ polling locations since 2016, has anybody mentioned any difficulty in finding where they're supposed to be? Yes, there has been some grumbling along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zorral said: So ... are the voters then mainly Rethugs voting Operation Chaos for Bernie in the Dem primary? ~~~~~~~~ Posters here may be interested in this long coverage article in New York Magazine about bloomb and his campaign; he's been trying to figure out getting the presidency for quite a few years now. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign.html At least one couple with certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: At least one couple with certainty. Thanks, Scot! As others too have commented, it's nice having live coverage from someone on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Zorral said: Thanks, Scot! As others too have commented, it's nice having live coverage from someone on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thank god the gym I'm at is empty, because I'm yelling at the fucking TV for this fucking Trump press conference. To relate it to current politics, Bernie should show this press conference and use it to promote M4A. Trump fucking literally said "if you're healthy you should be fine". Fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 This essentially makes the results out of South Carolina meaningless. It's going to split coverage so the winner will be less likely to get a bounce. Fuck, I need to get high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Are there a lot of Covid cases in Mexico? Why would the US close the southern border? If Trump thinks the stock markets are going to like this press conference, I think he's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Are there a lot of Covid cases in Mexico? Why would the US close the southern border? If Trump thinks the stock markets are going to like this press conference, I think he's wrong. The whole thing is a fucking disaster. I'm way more scared now than I was, because the idiot calling the shots still won't acknowledge the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Why the fuck is he talking about killing terrorists?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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