Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 So I was watching the best Christmas movie ever on TV, also the best batman movies ever, Batman Returns. Really if you haven't watch it yet, watch it, it's the funniest thing ever. And well I noticed this little gem: "I'm Catwoman, hear me roar." Now the more historically inclined of you may ask, wait isn't that too a rip off, of the 60's feminist saying "I'm a woman, hear me roar"? Yes, yes it is. But the shall we say feline connotation, is definitely from Batman Returns. So keep in mind the next time you read the books. The Lannister words come from Michelle Pfeiffer in a skin tight suit trying to out ham Chris Walken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Batman Returns is also the most 2020 film ever. Ultimately however, the Lannister words come from the mind of George R. R. Martin. They aren't one of his best notions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Pilate Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Lannister ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Nathan Stark said: Batman Returns is also the most 2020 film ever What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, BlackLightning said: What do you mean? Probably the fact that Batman Returns is incredibly dark. And so is perfect for 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sleeper Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Their real words are pretty cool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Nathan Stark said: Ultimately however, the Lannister words come from the mind of George R. R. Martin. What makes you think so? Batman returns came wag before AGOT, and the feline connotation of the words makes the similarities too strong in my eyes to be just an accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: What makes you think so? Batman returns came wag before AGOT, and the feline connotation of the words makes the similarities too strong in my eyes to be just an accident It may be, it may not be. Ultimately everything in ASOIAF comes from the mind of GRRM. Of all the house words, the Lannisters are the most silly, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, Nathan Stark said: Of all the house words, the Lannisters are the most silly, imho Which is another point towards me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Lannister words- “Hear Me Roar!” Mormont words- “Here We Stand.” Both banners have a standing animal. Maybe animals became, learned, or were given bipedal locomotion from the Mormonts or their region. The Lannisters speech or communication? Here we roar and Here we stand? Sorry, if this was supposed to be a comical post. P.S. Darkman beats Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: What makes you think so? Batman returns came wag before AGOT, and the feline connotation of the words makes the similarities too strong in my eyes to be just an accident It is not that original / hard to be invented by many people independently. Especially that lions do roar (unlike cats and women) I do not think Katy Perry stole it from GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: I'm Catwoman, hear me roar." Hear me Purr is more apt @Lord Lannister can say why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Kneelers & silence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Eliscat said: Sorry, if this was supposed to be a comical post. A mix. I find the comparison funny as hell, but I actually do believe that the source for the words is Michelle Pfeiffer trying to out-ham Chris Walken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Words and lion symbology might have originally belong to house Casterly but Lannisters "stole" those like they did to Casterly Rock. Or new lords of the Rock kept using symbols and words of their predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Nathan Stark said: It may be, it may not be. Ultimately everything in ASOIAF comes from the mind of GRRM. Of all the house words, the Lannisters are the most silly, imho. Absolutely. I recall the show's scene with Olenna complaining about the words of house Tyrell. I mean, those are shitty words, but at least they don't sound like a kid trying to sound scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Hear me roar! Hear.(and) We stand.? Bright roar wakes the sleepers? Watch is defined as to awaken. From the proto word Weg,I think. We got the giant Won Weg. Caster. Means cast away or castrated. “To cast away” the stones. Or it Could mean people abandoned. I Bend Knees. = ibbenese? The Kneelers stand thus “awaken”? Lion of Long Night. Ong and Ion? Strong and.....? Crasters keep. Maybe Lann swapped or sold houses. A pile of gold for a pile of shit. Making Lann a Northman. I’m just tossing out thoughts and ideas trying to consider all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Eliscat said: Hear me roar! Hear.(and) We stand.? Bright roar wakes the sleepers? Watch is defined as to awaken. From the proto word Weg,I think. We got the giant Won Weg. Caster. Means cast away or castrated. “To cast away” the stones. Or it Could mean people abandoned. I Bend Knees. = ibbenese? The Kneelers stand thus “awaken”? Lion of Long Night. Ong and Ion? Strong and.....? Crasters keep. Maybe Lann swapped or sold houses. A pile of gold for a pile of shit. Making Lann a Northman. I’m just tossing out thoughts and ideas trying to consider all things. Here We Stand sounds like a statement of principle; we know our values, we are loyal and we will always stand by them. Here We Stand! Here Me Roar sounds like a group of kids singing at a summer camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Nathan Stark said: Here We Stand sounds like a statement of principle; we know our values, we are loyal and we will always stand by them. Here We Stand! Here Me Roar sounds like a group of kids singing at a summer camp. most definitely. Motto’s and sigil’s make me think of the Baratheon sigil. The stag looks like a bite has been taken out of the neck. That fits the book. If so, does that mean Orlys didn’t keep the Baratheon sigil and motto? Or just more to the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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