Week Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 This trial is a painful watch. Defense attorneys are absolutely pathetic. Leahy is barely able to get through a sentence and certainly can't hold order. Amazing that the current defense is that the attack on January 6 was planned so he couldn't have had an "inciteful" speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 @ThinkerX do you have a longer version? I feel like I'm missing some of the context and subtlety in that brief excerpt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Yah, I wish they would hold the vote today and be done with it. Because this one religiously observant person wants to play with their space laser or something tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Week said: This trial is a painful watch. Defense attorneys are absolutely pathetic. Leahy is barely able to get through a sentence and certainly can't hold order. Amazing that the current defense is that the attack on January 6 was planned so he couldn't have had an "inciteful" speech. Well, duh! You know it's only about Trump's Jan. 6 speech and not that he was ginning this up from well before the election! [/s] I wish someone would "ask" a question just to clarify that point, at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 OMG, an der Veen. Sure, Trump was actually telling Democrats to fight to the death, got it! ETA: No, their agrument was he meant: When they go low, we go high. Sure, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I'm reminded of "...if neither the facts or the law are on your side, pound the table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Apologies for what is essentially a shitpost, but today was the first I'd heard of Amy Klobuchar killing a duck while golfing. @Tywin et al. I'm assuming you played some role in this? Was it murder, or merely duckslaughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I'm a pacifist, but I really want to slap van der Veen, almost as much as Lindsay. (These re strictly fanasies and not meant to incite s.o. to actually do it. ) OMG. "Holy cow", "Jiminy cricket" - who does he think he is, James Stewart in this old movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: I'm a pacifist, but I really want to slap van der Veen, almost as much as Lindsay. (These re strictly fanasies and not meant to incite s.o. to actually do it. ) If I hear "No due process!" one more time, I swear... Well, it's almost 5 pm where I am so it's time to start drinking, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Prince of the North said: If I hear "No due process!" one more time, I swear... Well, it's almost 5 pm where I am so it's time to start drinking, I think. Already passed 5 on the east coast. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/trump-has-no-right-due-process-his-impeachment-trial/605641/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 How is it Congress can’t subpoena Trump to testify? Hillary Clinton had to sit through many hours of questioning about BENGHAZI so where the fuck is Donny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I'm about half an hour behind, doggie had to be walked. To the question of why law enforcement was so ill-prepared for the attack: Why doesn't she mention the order of the Sec. of Defense, for capitol hill police? No armor, no arrests etc. That was a missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: How is it Congress can’t subpoena Trump to testify? Hillary Clinton had to sit through many hours of questioning about BENGHAZI so where the fuck is Donny My inner cynic says they don't actually want to, and this entire process is just so Dems can claim they did due diligence. They'll use covid sas a good excuse to not have a real investigation or impeachment trial. I'm sure other people can come up with more charitable explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Rankin is good. That was excellent. All house managers have done a nice job, but he's been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Week said: Already passed 5 on the east coast. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/trump-has-no-right-due-process-his-impeachment-trial/605641/ Thanks! Interesting read and, of course, I completely agree. I really, really, really like the last line: Quote The proper frame of reference for impeachment is consequently not the rights of the president, but the health of the republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: How is it Congress can’t subpoena Trump to testify? Hillary Clinton had to sit through many hours of questioning about BENGHAZI so where the fuck is Donny I suspect they lack the political will to do so. I think the Senate could do it if they voted, but I bet they don't have 50 Democratic Senators for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 "You rob a bank, and on the way out the door, you yell 'I respect private property!' - That's not a defense to robbing the bank." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: How is it Congress can’t subpoena Trump to testify? Hillary Clinton had to sit through many hours of questioning about BENGHAZI so where the fuck is Donny They could, but it'd be bogged down in legal challenges and make things take longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: How is it Congress can’t subpoena Trump to testify? Hillary Clinton had to sit through many hours of questioning about BENGHAZI so where the fuck is Donny A president being compelled to testify before Congress would be pretty precedent-setting (albeit plenty of presidents and former presidents have voluntarily testified). Especially in defense of himself. Remember Cheney always refused to testify - even if subpoena'd - by claiming executive privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 "... but then you should have been here on Jan 6th." Raskin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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