Werthead Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Rhom said: To be fair… Patrick Stewart looks basically the same now as he did at 48. I think that gag still worked as recently as ten years ago, but not really any more. His voice has definitely deserted him and he is looking quite a bit frailer than he did. Still looking very good for 81, but he now looks older than William Shatner does at 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 The youtube trailer for season 2 of Lower Decks seems to be region blocked so watched it here instead:https://ca.startrek.com/videos/watch-star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-trailer The Prodigy trailer is right after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SpaceChampion said: The youtube trailer for season 2 of Lower Decks seems to be region blocked so watched it here instead:https://ca.startrek.com/videos/watch-star-trek-lower-decks-season-2-trailer The Prodigy trailer is right after it. Holy shit! Spoiler Tom Paris is back! Kind of! Also, Cardassians! Norsicans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I'm really more enthusiastic about the animated shows at this point. Maybe my hopes for Picard and Discovery were too high, but Lower Decks is turning out to be a fun show in the Trek universe, while Prodigy seems visually stunning at least (might try to get my son into it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I didn't really know anything about Prodigy before today other than that Janeway was in it. I see now that she's an Emergency Training Hologram on an otherwise abandoned federation ship in the delta quadrant. huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Werthead said: Holy shit! Sokath, his eyes opened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, SpaceChampion said: Sokath, his eyes opened! Shaka, when the walls fell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Alex Kurtzman has extended his contract with Paramount+ until the end of 2026, which I'm sure will be news of joy to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The first two episodes of Lower Decks have been outstanding. Spoiler A Tamarian security chief has great promise as well. On 8/17/2021 at 12:52 AM, Mindwalker said: Oh joy. One of the most multi-faceted (multiest-faceted?!), lively, well-acted Voyager characters will feature in Prodigy! https://trekmovie.com/2021/08/15/another-star-trek-voyager-star-reveals-star-trek-prodigy-appearance/ He'll come on to whinge about his job for five years (whilst accepting the pay cheque) and then abruptly disappear at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Bloody hell, the latest Lower Decks is just a never-ending treasure trove of callbacks to the earlier series. Almost every frame has absolute tons of references to things. The most obvious one: the giant skeleton with the Starfleet uniform is the corpse of "big Spock" from the Animated Series episode The Infinite Vulcan. But the probe from The Inner Light is in there, Sisko's baseball, Data's portrait of Spock, the Mars Curiosity Rover, the Gorn skeleton from Discovery, Odo's bucket, a salt vampire corpse, Riker's trombone, and a ketracel white container among many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I'm actually shocked with how much I've been enjoying Lower Decks. About a year ago, I would have thought this show would be Trek at it's worst, but it really is made with a lot of love and care. Discovery season 3 was surprisingly alright for me. It wasn't great and still has a lot of problems that haven't been fixed, but over I think it was a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Surprising seeing as they have the same exec producer, but was episode 2 throwing a fair bit of shade at Discovery / Picard? Solving both situations through science and then Boimler’s quick fire rant at why he didn’t like the Titan, seemed like it was aimed squarely at the disillusioned TNG fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 hours ago, DaveSumm said: Surprising seeing as they have the same exec producer, but was episode 2 throwing a fair bit of shade at Discovery / Picard? Solving both situations through science and then Boimler’s quick fire rant at why he didn’t like the Titan, seemed like it was aimed squarely at the disillusioned TNG fan. Interesting take on things. That honestly went over my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, sifth said: Interesting take on things. That honestly went over my head. Quote I gotta be honest, I didn’t get into Starfleet to get into phaser fights. I signed up to explore, to be out in space making new discoveries and peaceful diplomatic solutions. That’s boldly going. And you know what? I’d love to be in a string quartet. I love that when Riker was on the Enterprise, he was out there jamming on the trombone and catching love disease and acting in plays and meeting his identical transporter clone, Thomas. That stuff may not seem as cool as what you guys do, but it’s Starfleet all the way. …then later, when asked what it was like on the Titan: Quote It was a bunch of complex characters thrown into heavily serialised battles which always ended in mind blowing twists and made me question the basic tenets of my reality. I guess it’s more pro-90’s Trek than anti DIS/PIC, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Thomas wasn’t technically a transporter clone, they were both equally the original Will Riker. Pity DS9 never revisited Tom after he got imprisoned by the Cardassians. Did Starfleet not arrange his release in exchange for industrial replicators after the Klingon attack? Did they just leave him to rot? Edit: According to Memory Alpha, Frakes was keen to return, but the DS9 producers were reluctant to keep revisiting the past, though there was talk of him being part of Damar’s rebellion, which would have been good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Very strong start for this new season of Lower Decks indeed. It's the little show that keeps giving. I never had high expectations for it, so it keeps being a pleasant surprise. The very opposite of Picard (omg, what a trainwreck) and, to a lesser extent, Discovery (which is ok, and could be genuinely good if it didn't keep going back to Burnham MarySuing her way out of every problem). I dunno if Lower Decks meant to criticize Discovery, because to be fair, Discovery does have its dose of exploration and peaceful diplomatic resolutions (IIRC). I'd say the original point was mainly to compare TNG-style Trek show(s) to action shows of the same era (end of 1980s to 1990s), and that also means poiting a finger at some of the more action-filled Discovery episodes (and maybe even... Enterprise?). Still, it's a surprising wink to people (like me) who define Trek exactly like that, i.e. who imagine the "ideal" future for humanity as being about this passion for exploration, the resolution of problems and conflicts through non-violent means (science, bitch!), and the balance between adventure and personal (character) development (hence the music and theatre). This is in fact what made fall in love with Star Trek as a kid, because it was so much more, eh, soothing than anything else on TV at the time. Even as the world seemed like such a big and dangerous place (at the time Saddam was supposed to be the devil incarnate - something South Park later made fun of), Trek offered a vision of a future where everything (or close enough) had been solved, and that was a very relaxing thought somehow. Anyway, I think this is acknowledging the fact that many trekkies share this view of Trek. With the caveat that Boimler is just one character that doesn't exactly get his way. Maybe I'm reading to much into this, but there's the possibility that Mariner is more of a stand-in for Burnham and Discovery (young woman of color whose few flaws are family-related -rather annoying for those watching her- as the main character), while Boimler (and Rutherford) represent TNG (a greater reliance on having science-related plots), and Lower Decks is kinda teasing the trekkies by showing they're perfectly aware of how Trek is now this odd mix of two aspects that don't always blend/get along well - though we all know that in the end, they can't excape one another. And Tendi is Tilly of course - looks aside, these two characters are very close aren't they?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aemon Stark Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The second episode of this season was a lot stronger - and I loved the crack about string quartets on the Enterprise-D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 So the important thing to come out of this week's episode is that Spoiler Threshold is 100% canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I think the most important thing is Spoiler It's 100% canon that the Kazon suck and their makeup and costumes look very silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I’m definitely enjoying the second season more. It seems they’ve dialled back the pace slightly, and reigned in Mariner’s insubordination so it feels a touch more in line with TNG. Fun adventures in being colour blind; it totally passed me by that Tendi was Orion, I leaned over to my wife and said ‘wait, has she been green the whole time?’. Between this and thinking Ahsoka Tano was brown, I am baaaad at animated sci fi skin colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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